phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 .... They've probably been getting legal counsel about how to extract themselves from this mess. .... I'm sure their contract does not include allowing lies and deceit at leisure already. They had 7 days from the ToyFair SNES-in-a-Jag (yeah I like the sound of it) to the CaptureCard-in-a-Jag, I don't think anyone appreciated the result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMike Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 What the heck did this video "prove"? O_o; That Carlsen lived near a Radio Shack or recycling Centre. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybermario Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 They'll lift up the DVR board to find... NICOLE SIMPSON'S "REAL" KILLERS! if they do that, the magic leprechaun and fairies powering the CC will escape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnaRyuu Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Except there are only two possibilities. 1) The holders of the name "Coleco" were in on the scam, and we can't trust what they say. 2) They weren't in on the scam and they had an SNES in Jag shell in their own booth for many days and they didn't think anything was fishy. Think about this. They saw it set up, they saw the SD2SNES cart menu screens, they saw them putting SNES games into it. They might even have seen the case open to fiddle with the controller connections. They certainly read the Facebook posts after the first day that said "it's a SNES!" and they didn't give it a closer look. If they are that gullible, why would you trust what they say now? Yeah their "report" is going to be bollocks seeing as their twitter account refuted accusations that there was an SNES Mini in the shell at the Toy Fair. They were in on it with Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMike Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Seven days is your standard grace period, and it's more leniency than Mike deserves. In legal terms it also "makes time of the essence." A court (if it came to that) would not see it as an unreasonable period while it also enforces a legal deadline. Or they could just be nice people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 For what? Deceit? Never heard of that. IMHO the only sensible action from Coleco is to cut their ties with RVGS, it's painful because that abomination was front and center a the toy fair booth, still, you don't double down, you cut your losses. If behind the scene unofficially they want to keep on working with them in the hope that the tooth fairy would given them a new videogame console, so be it. But officially the tie MUST be severed. All the bad press all over the internet is really stinking up the Coleco name. It's not like the Coleco of the old days that bestowed upon us the fine Colecovision console. No sir! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubxcube Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yeah their "report" is going to be bollocks seeing as their twitter account refuted accusations that there was an SNES Mini in the shell at the Toy Fair. They were in on it with Mike. of course their twitter account refuted it. A big company isnt going to acknowledge something like that in social media to a mob of angry retro gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) ... Or they could just be nice people. Sure but what's to be nice about? Seriously? Coleco brought them (RVGS "team") at the fair and got into a shitstorm of lies and deceit. The KS plug was pulled and more lies and deceit came in. Nobody asked RVGS to do any of that .... RVGS said they were ready (many times), RVGS doctored the images, RVGS keeps on spewing nonsense. Edited March 2, 2016 by phoenixdownita 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Doctored the image? There was photoshop involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikoInteractive Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/OriginalPSP/posts/10208868462768151 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Doctored the image? There was photoshop involved? Watermarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galax Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/OriginalPSP/posts/10208868462768151 It seems Mike has become toxic, is anyone standing by him? 6 mins · Denton, TX, United States · Announcement: I have tendered my resignation to RETRO Magazine, effective immediately. I had already turned in two pieces for the next issue, which may still run, but as of 4:00pm Central time today, I am no longer with the publication. I am grateful to have been part of it from the very first issue. Seeing my mother-in-law reading my work in a Barnes & Noble location was a special highlight for me. At the present time, however, I am moving on from it to focus on other projects. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBloke Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 There needs to be a dramatisation of this involving sock puppets 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident Aggressor Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 For what? Deceit? Never heard of that. IMHO the only sensible action from Coleco is to cut their ties with RVGS, it's painful because that abomination was front and center a the toy fair booth, still, you don't double down, you cut your losses. If behind the scene unofficially they want to keep on working with them in the hope that the tooth fairy would given them a new videogame console, so be it. But officially the tie MUST be severed. I have a better question. Why are you so suspicious of something as mundane as this? So they gave him seven days. I honestly don't see any shenanigans here. Look, this is about ass-coverage. Coleco is giving Mike a mile to prove himself, and they already know that he can't do it. But should this go to court, they can say "Look, we gave him more than enough time to prove himself, and he didn't." That's what this is about. In legal terms it also "makes time of the essence." A court (if it came to that) would not see it as an unreasonable period while it also enforces a legal deadline. What he said. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepdreamin Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/OriginalPSP/posts/10208868462768151 wise decision, that's probably going to be the next project to go down in flames. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/OriginalPSP/posts/10208868462768151 I can't make the connection, care to explain? Outside the fact that the boat is sinking and all the rats are leaving (no offense just a figure of speech, well maybe just a little offense) I am not sure what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Why are you so suspicious of something as mundane as this? ... Oh Pat said it very well: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times fuxx off". Edited March 2, 2016 by phoenixdownita 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryhenry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Under the DVR board they'll find... THE TELL-TALE HEART OF A MAN THAT WAS MURDERED! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I can't make the connection, care to explain? Outside the fact that the boat is sinking and all the rats are leaving (no offense just a figure of speech, well maybe just a little offense) I am not sure what's going on. Doesn't sound like the mag was doing well, and the Retro VGS was suppose to use the Kickstarter to pay full price for subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonicgo Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 This whole thing sounds like it came out of the George Costanza playbook. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtris Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 One vendor--the hornmaker--sees mounting evidence that something is not right and publicly dumps his thoughts. Homer comes on to AutoAge and responds angrily to both him and and the aerodynamic engineer; the vendor finds himself not a Homer vendor anymore. The engineer never thought he was in the loop to begin with. That's okay, because the feelings all-around were mutual. haha. toot toot I'm the horn maker! I was thinking about how similar the whole debacle was to the Homer back during the RVGS days. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Seven days seems very generous. Perhaps it's also meant as a cooling off period for the people watching this drama. It seems to have gotten a lot more fast and furious lately, even though most if not all of the facts are already in. Note to self: when lending out a good (if ancient and already a bit of a joke) name to others, obtain assurance that they can deliver before going public. If RVGS is cut out of using the Coleco name forever, that's good enough for me. I don't expect apologies from liars and idiots. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Doctored the image? There was photoshop involved? Pretty sure some of RetroVGS photos for their kick-starter look like they been altered slightly to make it look slightly blueish were the board end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Also now we know Mike was told (by Piko) he had a SD2SNES in his hands (taped to the back of a Jag cart). The cart has as sticker that says "Coleco Chameleon Prototype 1", same sticker on both the Snes-in-a-Jag and CaptureCard-in-a-Jag ...... I don't think the sticker printed itself and stick itself there. Also there's no SD2SNES card on the second cart. But it's supposed to be the same proto from the name on the cart? Oh wait, the proto is the cart? But it can't be the same as the console is not the same .... so confusing. All this details point to deceit .... a sloppy one obviously (as we caught them 3 times counting the RVGS-one). There's no defense against that, all contracts are void, there's no enforceable clause in any contract that can state: "in all cases, no matter what, even if we lie, cheat and steal, we have the right to 7 days to keep on throwing shit around as we see fit". Edited March 2, 2016 by phoenixdownita 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atm94404 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I have a better question. Why are you so suspicious of something as mundane as this? So they gave him seven days. I honestly don't see any shenanigans here. Look, this is about ass-coverage. Coleco is giving Mike a mile to prove himself, and they already know that he can't do it. But should this go to court, they can say "Look, we gave him more than enough time to prove himself, and he didn't." That's what this is about. What he said. I think the seven days is a ridiculously long amount of time given the history and the parties involved. Even Mike could probably order a Raspberry Pi off Amazon, watch some of Ben Heck's tutorials, get an emulator running on it, shove it in the case, and say "See, it plays games!". Given the lack of technical expertise demonstrated by RWB (assuming they are innocent in this whole thing) so far, they could be satisfied with such a "prototype". What if RWB comes back and says "it's all good"? Will anybody believe them? Should anybody? We are well past "Fool me once, shame on you...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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