xxl Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 It is better to check the Antony registr ($d1f7) instead of checking the processor since not every Antonia has a 16-bit processor. https://youtu.be/0Lvu7IVTOPs?t=1m40s 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 Except your, every one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowingGhoul Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 It is better to check the Antony registr ($d1f7) instead of checking the processor since not every Antonia has a 16-bit processor. https://youtu.be/0Lvu7IVTOPs?t=1m40s Are these available for sale anywhere? I love the idea of illegal op code compatibility. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I bought my from Simius Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 If you are testing for an Antonia without a 65816, then you are probably testing for something that works like every other RAM upgrade. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 If you are testing for an Antonia without a 65816, then you are probably testing for something that works like every other RAM upgrade. rather not. If Antonia is configured that there is no extra memory (or Axlon)? You will detect nothing. Therefore better check Antonia's config register. After such detection you can further check for 16bit proc or MapRAM. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 rather not. If Antonia is configured that there is no extra memory (or Axlon)? You will detect nothing. Therefore better check Antonia's config register. After such detection you can further check for 16bit proc or MapRAM. For 1 board? Really? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 For 1 board? Really? I think the point is that testing for 4MB of RAM will only detect 4MB of RAM, but the Antonia register is (presumably) an unambiguous indication that Antonia is present, and not some other 4MB upgrade (assuming one exists). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3834966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 For 1 board? Really? I'm sorry you do not understand what I wrote, it's by my poor English knowledge Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think the point is that testing for 4MB of RAM will only detect 4MB of RAM, but the Antonia register is (presumably) an unambiguous indication that Antonia is present, and not some other 4MB upgrade (assuming one exists). And the point I was making is that will only detect 1 board. If you are writing a utility for Antonia, that's preferred. If not, why write a special case for 1 board. So what if someone has to set the RAM configuration before you can use it. It's not like people are going to write a special version for one upgrade, and a special version for another. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 It rather depends on the interpretation of the question "how do you detect the upgrade?". I understood it to mean Antonia, but if all you want to do is find out how much RAM is in the machine or what CPU is present at runtime, clearly there are plenty of well-documented methods for doing both. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I was asking the question, and, in fact, I wanted to detect Antonia specifically, not a generic memory upgrade. xxl, could you elaborate a bit about your Antonia without 65816? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The difference is that Antonia without 65816 additionally supports MapRAM. Antonia reg. $D1F7: b7 - lock/unlock write b6-b4 - used ROM slot b3 - 16bit cpu memory (dosn't matter in 8-bit cpu version) b2-b0 - ext.ram config off,128k,192k,256k,320k,576k,1m and 4mb Axlon Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ok. Is this a special version, or, IOW, what hardware changes were needed? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3835721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Special version - I like it Installation is the same as the basic version. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3836072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 what other atari upgrades is Antonio compatible with - if any? I have a 4mb 1200XL and was wondering if it's possible to somehow make it work alongside an atarimax 32-in-1 i know it's unlikely, but just wondered if anyone has found a way Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3836942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Antonia already gives you eight sets of OS and BASIC (which are user-flashable, unlike the 32-in-1), so are the two upgrades really needed alongside one another? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3837000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 suppose not, but was curious to see if it could be done. a 4mb 1200XL with 40x OS - that's pushing the boat right out Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3837101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Heh, I suppose it is, but the flashable solutions (Antonia, U1MB, etc) present far more than forty possibilities, since you can apply an infinite number of operating systems as and when you feel like it. Flashing from disk isn't exactly as convenient as pressing a couple of buttons, but in reality eight carefully selected operating systems should be sufficient to cover most eventualities. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3837156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+David_P Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Just like 640k 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3837219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Here is the newer version of the ANT.EXE config program and flasher for Antonia. It should be a bit more user-friendly in regard to the slot identification. It also allows to flash a 400/800 OS into the ROM: this possibility was missing in the original release, I do not know, why (I probably forgot about it). ant11.zip 9 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3840693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzdineG Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Here is the newer version of the ANT.EXE config program and flasher for Antonia. It should be a bit more user-friendly in regard to the slot identification. It also allows to flash a 400/800 OS into the ROM: this possibility was missing in the original release, I do not know, why (I probably forgot about it). Does this by chance make it possible to use Antonia in an 800? Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3840851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 The program itself unfortunately cannot make the hardware designed for XL/XE be compatible with 400/800. But please contact Simius for details. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3840858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezgar Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) I finally put together the parts from ebay to attempt to get the firmware upgraded in my Antonia so I can use the SIDE2 Cart with it... - USB Blaster with IDC cable - Micro-match connector to crimp onto the IDC cable - Installed Quartus prime programmer standard edition ... - Got the updated Ant800XL.pof file from Simius - Remove ROM jumper on Antonia. - Verified full continuity of every pin on the JTAG connectors on the ends of the IDC cable to the micro-match connectors, all the way through each pin on the bottom of the antonia board as well, so the connection should be good... Trying to do the firmware according to the steps in Nir's Youtube video: ... and I'm getting stuck at the "Auto Detect" part - it just hangs for a while before popping up "Unable to scan device chain". It does successfully detect the USB Blaster itself in the "Hardware Setup..." Button Anyone else out there done this and can confirm my connections, process/parts? - Is pin 1 of the IDC cable supposed to go to the top of the micro-match connector as pictured? (Same way as in Nir's video) - I'm making sure the host 600XL is powered on and running when trying. - Do I have a faulty USB Blaster? They're cheap enough from ebay china who knows if its actually any good... - Should I try installing this on a different PC? - Is it because the USB cable is connected through a hub? Thanks for any help... Worst case if I can't figure this out, maybe I can send it to someone to attempt the process on a working configuration... Is that ACT light supposed to be on all the time? Edited September 10, 2017 by Nezgar Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3844986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 When I flashed my setup I had to restart the flashing software after the first attempt failed.. Then the software found the device chain and the button was lit up.. you also have to have the check mark checked for PROGRAM/CONFIGURE.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/249405-new-4mb-ram-expansion/page/17/#findComment-3845012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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