DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Been pushing my PDFs on both the Jaguar and 7800 boards. This time i`m doing a PDF on the 2600. As the library is huge compared to the Jaguar and 7800, i`m having a bit of a problem on the legality of the library. I`m using AtariAge rarity list for sorting the games, and I don`t know what games are considered an official release, etc. If someone would like to see were I am on PDF I included it as a attachment to this post. And if someone has a official list of games, then that would be really helpful. ---2600.pdf 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Cool! Another great encyclopedia! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 check here for companies who released Atari games: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/250417-atari-2600-game-list/page-2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 A few questions i`m hoping some can answer: Did the developers Zellers only produce unlicensed 2600 games? Is the PAL release Dancing Plate (NTSC release: Dishaster) an unlicensed game? And is this every PAL exclusive list of games: Acid Drop Bobby Geht Heim Fatal RunGhostbusters II My Golf Pick n Pile Wing War Am I missing anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 check here for companies who released Atari games: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/250417-atari-2600-game-list/page-2 Thanks for the link. I will use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Update: https://daddarulekonge.itch.io/apro If anyone has ANY input, I will really appreciate it. I can even work with hate on this project as long as it`s constructive hate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I just tried that update link but I'm getting a 404 error (not found). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cvga Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Sorry I don't have any hate to offer. I really like it so far! Are the small circled numbers some type of rating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 I just tried that update link but I'm getting a 404 error (not found). Try now. Sorry I don't have any hate to offer. I really like it so far! Are the small circled numbers some type of rating? Yes, it is scores from gamefaq. Some users has already voiced their dismay over this score, as it`s often biased and stupid, but I need something that has continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Wow...I'm really digging this one . Love the layout and content that your providing in this PDF. Lots of work for sure -- Thank you. Here's my input: I would include Juno First, Space Rocks and Star Castle Arcade as part of the Notable Homebrews. Would be nice to make mention of the AtariVox, for any of the homebrews that support it. For reference, here's a link to the supported games: https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1045 Each of the supported games, has an Atarivox Support/Enhanced section: (i.e. AStar: https://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=821) Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Wow...I'm really digging this one . Love the layout and content that your providing in this PDF. Lots of work for sure -- Thank you. Here's my input: I would include Juno First, Space Rocks and Star Castle Arcade as part of the Notable Homebrews. Would be nice to make mention of the AtariVox, for any of the homebrews that support it. For reference, here's a link to the supported games: https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1045 Each of the supported games, has an Atarivox Support/Enhanced section: (i.e. AStar: https://www.atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=821) Thanks again. Thanks. I will include the atarivox. Also I will include every homebrew listed on the AtariAge rarity list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Every homebrew listed? - Awesomesauce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 A few questions i`m hoping some can answer: Did the developers Zellers only produce unlicensed 2600 games? Is the PAL release Dancing Plate (NTSC release: Dishaster) an unlicensed game? And is this every PAL exclusive list of games: Acid Drop Bobby Geht Heim Fatal Run Ghostbusters II My Golf Pick n Pile Wing War Am I missing anyone? Klax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Klax Thanks, I also found Nuts Panda Chase Parachute Zoo Fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Nuts, Pharaos Curse, Save Our Ship I think these count: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) A few questions i`m hoping some can answer: Did the developers Zellers only produce unlicensed 2600 games? Is the PAL release Dancing Plate (NTSC release: Dishaster) an unlicensed game? And is this every PAL exclusive list of games: Acid Drop Bobby Geht Heim Fatal Run Ghostbusters II My Golf Pick n Pile Wing War Am I missing anyone? Bobby Geht Heim (Bobby Is Going Home) was also released in NTSC format: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-bobby-is-going-home_18790.html Please use the original versions of the PAL ITT games mentioned above: http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-2600-vcs-p_total-page-step-format-original_70-1-200-1-1_2_G.html Most of these titles were originally Home Vision games. For example, Cosmic Town from ITT was first released as Base Attack by Home Vision: http://www.atarimania.com/game-base-attack_s7272.html Edited April 17, 2016 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I was able to get it downloaded. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Been pushing my PDFs on both the Jaguar and 7800 boards. This time i`m doing a PDF on the 2600. As the library is huge compared to the Jaguar and 7800, i`m having a bit of a problem on the legality of the library. I`m using AtariAge rarity list for sorting the games, and I don`t know what games are considered an official release, etc. If someone would like to see were I am on PDF I included it as a attachment to this post. And if someone has a official list of games, then that would be really helpful. can't wait to see a more complete listing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangentg Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It's nice but I wish there was more to the games in each entry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 update on the PDF:https://daddarulekonge.itch.io/apro It's nice but I wish there was more to the games in each entry... I know it`s a little bare bone. Some games I can find pages of information on but some games it`s hard to just find a sentence on. I think this PDF is more like a book people can "flip" though to find a little information on each game. So they can decide what to buy or play next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 A few questions i`m hoping some can answer: Did the developers Zellers only produce unlicensed 2600 games? Zellers was a Canadian discount department store chain (that went out of business several years ago). They did not develop or manufacture anything themselves -- though there were numerous "store brand" products produced to their specifications. I don't think that anyone knows who the original developer of these games was; presumably it was some small firm in Taiwan or Hong Kong. It is my personal theory that the same developer did the Quelle games, but I cannot prove that. (Quelle was a similar discount department store, based in Germany.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Zellers was a Canadian discount department store chain (that went out of business several years ago). They did not develop or manufacture anything themselves -- though there were numerous "store brand" products produced to their specifications. I don't think that anyone knows who the original developer of these games was; presumably it was some small firm in Taiwan or Hong Kong. It is my personal theory that the same developer did the Quelle games, but I cannot prove that. (Quelle was a similar discount department store, based in Germany.) Original developers from the Zeller titles can all be found here (the titles that are in white on each game page): http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-2600-vcs-zellers-taiwan-2600-compatible_publisher_47_2_G.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOliver Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 For Space Cavern it says "He told developer Dan Oliver what he wanted in the game without disclosing his inspiration" which is a version I've read before and I don't think is correct. Pat and/or Ed gave me a manual or marketing material for Demon Attack, said it was a great game (impressed with the graphics), and I was to make one like it. They also said they were trying to get a copy from a distributor. That "meeting" took 30-60 seconds. Several days later they got a copy and let me look at Demon Attack in a room at Apollo. They wouldn't let me dump the cart or keep a copy so they were concerned about legal issues. Having learned 6502 just a few weeks previous, never having seen an Atari before starting at Apollo like a week before I got the Demon Attack assignment, no 2600 manual, I had absolutely no idea how Demon Attack was done. It was and still is a really impressive game. I could barely get 2 line resolution. To Apollo's credit they didn't really want Demon Attack ripped off. No one ever mentioned Demon Attack after development of Space Cavern started, no one suggested any changes to make it more like Demon Attack. It was purely used as "inspiration". It would be nice if the encyclopedia had the human developer's name instead or in addition to the corporate name. Might be just me but that info is more useful. That David Crane did a specific game is useful. What company he happen to be at the time I don't find as useful or interesting. It was a time when a single person normally created the entire game and maybe a reason why Atari remains interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddaRuleKonge Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 For Space Cavern it says "He told developer Dan Oliver what he wanted in the game without disclosing his inspiration" which is a version I've read before and I don't think is correct. Pat and/or Ed gave me a manual or marketing material for Demon Attack, said it was a great game (impressed with the graphics), and I was to make one like it. They also said they were trying to get a copy from a distributor. That "meeting" took 30-60 seconds. Several days later they got a copy and let me look at Demon Attack in a room at Apollo. They wouldn't let me dump the cart or keep a copy so they were concerned about legal issues. Having learned 6502 just a few weeks previous, never having seen an Atari before starting at Apollo like a week before I got the Demon Attack assignment, no 2600 manual, I had absolutely no idea how Demon Attack was done. It was and still is a really impressive game. I could barely get 2 line resolution. To Apollo's credit they didn't really want Demon Attack ripped off. No one ever mentioned Demon Attack after development of Space Cavern started, no one suggested any changes to make it more like Demon Attack. It was purely used as "inspiration". It would be nice if the encyclopedia had the human developer's name instead or in addition to the corporate name. Might be just me but that info is more useful. That David Crane did a specific game is useful. What company he happen to be at the time I don't find as useful or interesting. It was a time when a single person normally created the entire game and maybe a reason why Atari remains interesting. On Space Cavern I used the text form wikipedia. I will rewrite the text I see your point on using the developers name. I will probably be more interesting. I will try to get something done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOliver Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think something like "Pat and Ed were inspired by Demon Attack" would be a good middle ground. Could be we all remember it differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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