phoenixdownita Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It really doesn't matter how talented a group is, they have no right to use someone else's characters without permission and obviously big N does not give such kind of permission. It will be interesting to see if this Metroid and Pokemon do drop the references to characters they do not own, if the response to the game (an the game alone) would be positive or negative on its own right. Riding the popularity wave that someone else achieved is a lot easier that starting from scratch but it may work as a trampoline (albeit in a grey area) to launch new indie developers. Their next game may be well received (assuming the same quality etc...) with mentions like "from the creator of the XYZ game taken down by Nintendo" and such to amplify a little the reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think the best bet would be to release a game that has all the proper mechanics and gameplay, but to call it something else and have some different graphics.Then release a "total conversion" patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 And then there's the Goldeneye: Source mod. I wonder if it will receive notice as well.https://www.geshl2.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Why would we pay Metroid 2 in virtual console when you can get this game free? I understand why Nintendo took action for this kind of piracy. Of course, the author's remake won't earn money but it's still steal Nintendo's money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalled iiiiiiiiiiiiiiithttp://www.businessinsider.com/pokemon-uranium-fan-game-shut-down-by-nintendo-2016-8 Could have found any kinds of links. I just picked one at random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdee Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Streisand effect is now in action, though... this is the best publicity these projects could get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Oh this is impressive, over 500 games on Gamejolt have been taken down by Nintendon't: http://fireside.gamejolt.com/post/dmca-notices-for-fangames-bzc9h583 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Feel like Nintendo should probably focus on making games and systems that people actually want rather than worrying about fan projects. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Granted I think Gamejolt gets revenue ad streams so someones making a little money there......but still. The youtube thing bothers me more. Love what Sterling did with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boog Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'd never heard of gamejolt, but after looking at the list of games that were removed it seems like almost all of them have Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon in the title. I'm guessing most have graphics/music ripped from old Nintendo roms and stuffed into some amateur project. If anyone is making money from these then Nintendo has every right to take legal action... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 They have a right to protect their intellectual property. Just seems weird for them to suddenly lash out at every project now. I doubt they were in the dark about all of this for the past decade or more... (not 100% sure when modified roms started getting prominance) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empsolo Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Granted I think Gamejolt gets revenue ad streams so someones making a little money there......but still. The youtube thing bothers me more. Love what Sterling did with that. I'd never heard of gamejolt, but after looking at the list of games that were removed it seems like almost all of them have Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon in the title. I'm guessing most have graphics/music ripped from old Nintendo roms and stuffed into some amateur project. If anyone is making money from these then Nintendo has every right to take legal action... Gamejolt is notorious for including advertising not just on their website but advertisements in those flash games when they start up. Gamejolt offers a service whereby game makers can get a slice of the ad revenue. Edited September 3, 2016 by empsolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowCemetery Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 it is a little sad to see the fangame era closing. using spriterips to try and replicate your favorite game is a common place to start for people who want to learn more about game development, it's even kind of a comforting thing for me to return to when i want to try something out but not have to think too much about anything but technical details. the world has changed though and the people making these fan recreations do realize that. it's unlikely either the metroid or pokemon games mentioned earlier would have even been started in the current climate, and only due to being so long in development did they grandfather their way in. no need to get angry at nintendo on the behalf of these people, i doubt they have any such feelings themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) I dont see anything wrong with using sprites to learn with, its like playing chords from your favorite rock songs, but you cant release a record called LED ZEPPELIN II with what you consider better remakes of the original songs and not expect to be punched right in the dick. Why would it be any different with video games? Just because you spent a lot of time with a IP doesnt mean you own it any more than the people who actually own it Edited September 3, 2016 by Osgeld 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowCemetery Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 i didn't mean to imply that fan creators are somehow victims, if anything i'm getting weary of this outrage cycle when they are inevitably shut down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 They've killed over 500 fan games apparently... http://thenextweb.com/gaming/2016/09/06/nintendo-dissapoints-500-fan-games/ EDIT: cimerians Beat ME!!! Oh this is impressive, over 500 games on Gamejolt have been taken down by Nintendon't: http://fireside.gamejolt.com/post/dmca-notices-for-fangames-bzc9h583 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Here's where I come down on this...Nintendo has every right to protect their properties. They could have handled this situation in a different way that didn't engender ill will.Don't ask me how, I have no idea. Edited September 6, 2016 by Inky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 This is what happens when you release too many wild pokemon on the world 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Curious is Super Mario Run paid or free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 They've killed over 500 fan games apparently... http://thenextweb.com/gaming/2016/09/06/nintendo-dissapoints-500-fan-games/ Amazing how fans never learn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Maybe this is a sign (probably not) that Nintendo has some upcoming Metroid game in the works and doesn't want a fan project to compete with it? Nintendo seems to really hate their old school fans. Or just really hate free marketing. It has more to do with the value of their IP to the valuation of the company and the risk of anything devaluing or diluting their brand's value and the material effect on the company. They even cite it as a risk factor in their annual reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Way to go Sega: https://twitter.com/premydaremy/status/774652280054419456 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Nintendo has every right to protect their IP's so I understand why they took down the Metroid remake. However, they created the situation. Metroid 2 for the GB is a game that got missed by a lot of people, came out at a time when Metroid was not the super popular and big franchise that it is today, and is really unplayable by 2016 standards. Just like with original Metroid which got re-made as Zero Mission about ten years ago, Metroid II is BEGGING for a remake in the same vain. Nintendo for some reason is ignoring the masses (like myself) who have bothered them for years to re-make this game so a fan stepped up and did it. Nintendo should take a lesson from this and look at how popular it was and make their own re-make. I'd buy it in a second. I downloaded the ROM before it got yanked, but didn't know there was a 1.1 patch and now I can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.BAZ Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 People get too overworked with this idea of "stealing." This has already been decided long ago, it's not theft. It's up to Nintendo. They decide whether to allow it or not. In this case, they decided not to allow it. So now the makers of this game are no longer putting it out there. So there has been no problem, no one is a "thief." And Nintendo has done nothing wrong. And also the remarks such as "no sympathy for these fan artists." What are these dudes worried about? No one stole anything. Nintendo decided not to allow it so they didn't allow it. Simple as that. People do games like this because it's fun. And sometimes it actually flies. Nintendo has given their blessing to some of these hacks & homebrews after they are completed. They were not "rewarding thieves." More like bringing some artists on board, and choosing not to give the "ok" in other cases. In either case, no one has done anything wrong. Is this not obvious? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I saw a YouTube video last night that covered this game. Very impressive stuff, I may have to check it out for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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