emkay Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, zbyti said: Importance of practicing scales Playing any scales and arpeggios with the proper technique ensures easy and fluid movement without physical discomfort. Also, when you are familiar with all scales, you can quickly identify key signatures and recognize patterns while playing pieces. You’ll also find that your hands are ready for all the sharps and flats without your brain consciously reminding yourself. Additionally, you can learn chord structure through arpeggios. For example, the arpeggios of major scales teach you major chords, while those of minor scales teach you minor chords. https://www.libertyparkmusic.com/scales-arpeggios-piano-practice/ There is also the other way round. Importance of practicing scales Playing any scales and arpeggios with the proper technique ensures easy and fluid movement without physical discomfort. Also, when you are familiar with all scales, you can quickly identify key signatures and recognize patterns while playing pieces. You’ll also find that your hands are ready for all the sharps and flats without your brain consciously reminding yourself. Additionally, you can learn chord structure through arpeggios. For example, the arpeggios of major scales teach you major chords, while those of minor scales teach you minor chords. Importance of practicing music "Playing any scales and arpeggios with the proper technique ensures easy and fluid movement without physical discomfort. Also, when you are familiar with all scales, you can quickly identify key signatures and recognize patterns while playing pieces. You’ll also find that your hands are ready for all the sharps and flats without your brain consciously reminding yourself. Additionally, you can learn chord structure through arpeggios. For example, the arpeggios of major scales teach you major chords, while those of minor scales teach you minor chords." At the end you get your learned impression in prior to what is real. You automatically find a chord in any piece of music and don't get the sense of the music itself. Actually, people lose the sense for music. Seeing guys showing chords on mistuned guitars... I did link a video earlier in the thread. That's why "number one" hits often could get sung by crows that find the correct pitch for the defined chord. Example: When the Radio Station started to play this song , I quit listen to the Radio station till today. Edited November 20, 2020 by emkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, emkay said: At the end you get your learned impression in prior to what is real. You automatically find a chord in any piece of music and don't get the sense of the music itself. Actually, people lose the sense for music. My point was: if you want to break the rules try to know them for start. I like jazz music and I think I can sense when a "wrong note" is the right one Edited November 20, 2020 by zbyti typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) @emkay listen to this tune (one of my XTD favorites) https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44900 if TRUE musician "make some glitches" it is still great music Edited November 20, 2020 by zbyti typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, emkay said: Actually, people lose the sense for music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, zbyti said: Contrary to XTD they know what harmonics are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Video hack alert In theory , I'm a Daft Punk fan. Even if 20 years too old Found myself tapping to this while listing ... It's "ripped" from Makary Browner's video . Own instruments at 64kHz. Flying with Pokey at 1:02 I should try a 15kHz version, too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Edited November 21, 2020 by zbyti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Nice pokey conversion. But man does it ever show that pokey was a sound effects generator for 70s arcade machines while the SID was made to play music and basically morphed into Ensoniq synthesizers. That's OK though - I'll wait for everyone to tell me how much better pokey is than sid. That conversion though - completely in tune, sounds like the original, just a scratchier lo-fi version of it. Can't wait for emkay to come along and butcher it while telling the author what he did wrong 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Stephen said: Nice pokey conversion. But man does it ever show that pokey was a sound effects generator for 70s arcade machines while the SID was made to play music and basically morphed into Ensoniq synthesizers. That's OK though - I'll wait for everyone to tell me how much better pokey is than sid. That conversion though - completely in tune, sounds like the original, just a scratchier lo-fi version of it. Can't wait for emkay to come along and butcher it while telling the author what he did wrong Your words: You are deaf. Definitely. Most of the tune is correct, but every higher note is like a different tune is playing, and you don't hear that. Do you even know what harmonics are? Bass: Pokey perfect Arpeggios, very good Synth: Not "dying " but drunken cats". Up and downs in the synth cause naupathia. Edited November 21, 2020 by emkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, emkay said: (...) every higher note is like a different tune is playing, and you don't hear that. My PC speakers have only frequency response 20 - 20000 Hz Maybe this is a reason why this tune sounds right for me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, emkay said: Not "dying " but drunken cats". I remember this tune ? https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=119645 https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Booker/Drunk_Cat.sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, zbyti said: My PC speakers have only frequency response 20 - 20000 Hz Maybe this is a reason why this tune sounds right for me? It's what you point toward me. The "learned automatic chord recognition" makes you blind for the real played frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, zbyti said: I remember this tune ? https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=119645 https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Booker/Drunk_Cat.sid Edited November 21, 2020 by emkay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, emkay said: It's what you point toward me. The "learned automatic chord recognition" makes you blind for the real played frequency. This is only one possible answer, another is that you hear everything differently :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, emkay said: You are a real destroyer! Edited November 21, 2020 by zbyti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 This one is little more touched by the original Is there a SID version available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 That's why POKEY can replay this tune. The bass is a shooting among the aimed frequency. The Polycounter Bass is perfect for this. The modulation slide bass as in the original Song isn't to be reached, but the musically part is there. Interesting Video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, emkay said: This one is little more touched by the original It started well but got weird at 0:37 ? Edited November 21, 2020 by rensoup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, rensoup said: It started well but got weird at 0:37 ? It actually starts at 0:37 Not sure what you find weird at that point. But the main synth is going to "speak" there as in the original song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 8-Bit version... just some simpler bass , and some more channels. Interesting additional youtube find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Hm.... This version makes a split in the arpeggios to fit to the bass and the synth. Also it's set to not to sound too much like crazy chickens. Also some softening in the high tone Synth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 20 hours ago, emkay said: This version makes a split in the arpeggios to fit to the bass and the synth. Also it's set to not to sound too much like crazy chickens. Also some softening in the high tone Synth... it's a bit less wrong until 0:44 where it still goes very wrong... I'm going to suggest something different: Warhawk (but it's an .XM) https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2009/10/06/mod-monday-5/ There's a bunch more which may be good candidates for conversions: https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2011/01/10/mod-monday-71/ https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2010/10/04/mod-monday-57/ https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2011/02/07/mod-monday-75/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, rensoup said: it's a bit less wrong until 0:44 where it still goes very wrong... It's simply no 3 channel Chip arrangement. That's the part where my "being not a musician" jumps in. The tune needs a different rearrangement, not just some fitting chords. 29 minutes ago, rensoup said: I'm going to suggest something different: Warhawk (but it's an .XM) https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2009/10/06/mod-monday-5/ There's a bunch more which may be good candidates for conversions: https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2011/01/10/mod-monday-71/ https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2010/10/04/mod-monday-57/ https://www.terrybutler.co.uk/2011/02/07/mod-monday-75/ I'll check. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Hm... I'm a little honored. XLent offered me the "real" notation of the SID version of Noisy Pillars. Feel free to listen to a 1st edit , using some instruments of the MOD conversion. Thanks XLent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I'd certainly have never known it was supposed to sound like this without the title. Sounds like a low quality headphone playing an AM radio signal from 100 miles away while fingernails are being dragged down a chalkboard. Guess I really am the deaf one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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