Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I've been trying to get Gorf to work on the new version of MAME...long story short it's killing me. It's saying bios is missing if i right click on Gorf in the list of games. I've got the astrocde.zip file in with the roms...the gorf.zip file is in with the roms.... I don't understand what is missing or wrong here? I've googled it until my eyes are bleeding and it looks like everyone else seems to just load it up and it works? I don't get it? any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 What does it say if you run it from the command line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) I don't remember Gorf needing any BIOS files.. you sure you're reading that right? Post a screenshot! Edited January 2, 2017 by NE146 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 it gives me the missing rom or chd error. the info says "no bios" which i guess means it has no bios, not that its missing? the rom file has gorf-a.bin through gorf-h.bin I've downloaded the rom file from several different places...it's always the same. Dig Dug and none of the Mario games work either? which I've added all the Namcoxx files/drivers...also got the Bios and Devices packs and added them. I don't know if its the new version of MAME or what but I've been fooling with this stuff for like 20 years so I dont understand why I can't fix this haha....frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 So where's the screenshot of the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Regular red box error. Nothing special that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 i changed it to show the audits and its saying the Gorf audit on the rom is bad...but i've downloaded it from 3 different places and my old one I used years ago that worked i have...where can i find "what it's looking for" as far as the Gorf roms go? I did a google search and came up empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Are you using a ROM version that matches your version of MAME? This seems to be the one thing people mismatch constantly and that can cause such errors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) <rom name="gorf-a.bin" size="4096" crc="5b348321" sha1="76e2e3ad1a66755f1a369167fdb157690fd44a52" region="maincpu" offset="0"/> <rom name="gorf-b.bin" size="4096" crc="62d6de77" sha1="2601faf12d0ab4972c5535ffd722b03ecd8c097c" region="maincpu" offset="1000"/> <rom name="gorf-c.bin" size="4096" crc="1d3bc9c9" sha1="0b363a71d7585a4828e08668ebb2999c55e02721" region="maincpu" offset="2000"/> <rom name="gorf-d.bin" size="4096" crc="70046e56" sha1="392214cc6ed4155bfe022d36f0f86c2594a5ab57" region="maincpu" offset="3000"/> <rom name="gorf-e.bin" size="4096" crc="2d456eb5" sha1="720fb8b48e20c1fc281d8804259016c3c5364a07" region="maincpu" offset="8000"/> <rom name="gorf-f.bin" size="4096" crc="f7e4e155" sha1="9c9d6d3bfee6556dc7a01de81d6148dd02f04fc9" region="maincpu" offset="9000"/> <rom name="gorf-g.bin" size="4096" crc="4e2bd9b9" sha1="9edccceea5af015275582553ed238c40c73d8f4f" region="maincpu" offset="a000"/> <rom name="gorf-h.bin" size="4096" crc="fe7b863d" sha1="5aa8d824814ee1c30eaf0044da78d3aa8220dcaa" region="maincpu" offset="b000"/> from the best i can tell...that's what it's looking for...and I've got all of those .bin files with those exact names in the zip file? I don't get it???? Edited January 2, 2017 by Mock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 It's the newest version of MAME (0.181) if anyone wants to give it a shot...try your gorf rom and let me know if you have any luck lol...it's gotta be something simple I just can't figure out what's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 ok so i downloaded MAME 0.141 and the rom I have works fine on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ok so i downloaded MAME 0.141 and the rom I have works fine on it? Variations between versions of MAME and ROMs often breaks comparability with games. All I know is had those "missing" error messages when I mixed versions, after that I simply stuck to getting ROMSETS bundled with a matching MAME version and have never had an issue since. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Mine works in Mame 0.180. I have an older rom set. Whenever I come across one that doesn't work I just download that one from emuparadise. Never had a problem using the latest mames. Edited January 2, 2017 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 That's right. Get the latest set and you should be fine. As MAME continues to evolve more and more chips are emulated rather than simulated - and that is situation with GORF. Now they're emulating the speech chip itself. GORF used the Votrax SC-01-A speech chip for voice synthesis. Older versions of MAME used samples and simulation. Now it's the real deal. You will need to get votrax.zip, and in it the filename will be sc01a.bin. Just put it alongside your gorf.zip and everything should be dandy flappers again. Running via the command line will tell you that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Yup.. I thought so.. "MAME 0.181 also marks the debut of Votrax SC-01 emulation in MAME, based on reverse-engineering die photographs. The digital section should be pretty much perfect, although there are still some issues in the analog section (plosives don’t sound quite right). Overall, it’s a huge improvement in Votrax speech synthesis emulation, and a great leap forward in our understanding of how the hardware works. It also means speech samples are no longer required for a number of games." I'm pretty sure Wizard of Wor, Reactor, and Q-Bert will be affected (and improved) with this change. Edited January 2, 2017 by Keatah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 so...we are talking about MAME 0.181 here...can anyone get Gorf to work? I can get the older version to work...but I can't get it to work in 0.181 with the Votrax improvements...which I have the Votrax files (I think) as required. That's the whole point of trying to get it to work in the newest release...supposedly they have fixed the sound files on Gorf and WOW...I haven't tried it yet as I assume if Gorf doesn't work then WOW won't either....fix one you probably fix both. Qbert would be an awesome bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 That's right. Get the latest set and you should be fine. As MAME continues to evolve more and more chips are emulated rather than simulated - and that is situation with GORF. Now they're emulating the speech chip itself. GORF used the Votrax SC-01-A speech chip for voice synthesis. Older versions of MAME used samples and simulation. Now it's the real deal. You will need to get votrax.zip, and in it the filename will be sc01a.bin. Just put it alongside your gorf.zip and everything should be dandy flappers again. Running via the command line will tell you that. I have put the votrax.zip in the rom folder with the gorf.zip file and even put the sco1.bin (i don't see a sc01a.bin file?) in with the gorf.bin files in the gorf.zip folder and it's still not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Has to be sc01a.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Has to be sc01a.bin where do i get that version? emuparadise votrax doesnt have it in the zip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Here try this one.. just snagged it offa usenet and it looks like it's only 5 days old, so maybe it'll work. votrax.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Give it time, it'll filter down through the ranks I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Mame doesn't complain about the checksum. And it looks the right size from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Here try this one.. just snagged it offa usenet and it looks like it's only 5 days old, so maybe it'll work. Thats it! and it works! Thanks! now i've got the Gorfian Empire talking trash to me while I play hahaha....pretty awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mock Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Qbert and WOW both work also with the new speech...killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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