godslabrat Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 This was announced a few days ago, but I'm still not seeing a lot of info on it. Here's the primary source I can find: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/atgames_is_releasing_a_new_sega_genesis_clone_to_rival_the_nes_classic_mini ...And reading the comments, I can already see a big issue brewing. People aren't able to distinguish this from the other Genesis clones that have flooded the market over the years. If this is actually an effort to raise the bar on those, more power to AtGames. And if it isn't... well, carry on, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 We've been talking about this quite a bit in the other threads here on AtariAge for some time. If there's anything you'd like to know (that I can actually reveal), just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 We've been talking about this quite a bit in the other threads here on AtariAge for some time. If there's anything you'd like to know (that I can actually reveal), just ask. I've seen you allude to it in the NES Mini thread, but thought it was worth a new thread. And, like I said, there's still a lot of confusion between this and the previous product. My questions: Can you confirm this will be an ARM board with a fresh emulator, or is there even a chance it's still the same Genesis-on-a-chip that was found in Firecore products? Is the HDMI native, or upscaled analog? Confirm SD card support? Confirm the wireless controllers are NOT Infrared? And finally... is the system a "mini" or a full-size genesis? I'm wondering about the proportion of the cart slot to the rest of the system. Honestly, the game list looks reasonably strong (minus the public domain stuff which I'll just ignore). If the build quality and playback are solid, I'm on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 BTW, I finally found your contributions in the Atari all-in-one thread. Sorry to ask you to repeat yourself, I'm not really a fan of those devices (nothing personal, just not my speed) so I don't read that subforum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I've seen you allude to it in the NES Mini thread, but thought it was worth a new thread. And, like I said, there's still a lot of confusion between this and the previous product. My questions: Can you confirm this will be an ARM board with a fresh emulator, or is there even a chance it's still the same Genesis-on-a-chip that was found in Firecore products? Is the HDMI native, or upscaled analog? Confirm SD card support? Confirm the wireless controllers are NOT Infrared? And finally... is the system a "mini" or a full-size genesis? I'm wondering about the proportion of the cart slot to the rest of the system. Honestly, the game list looks reasonably strong (minus the public domain stuff which I'll just ignore). If the build quality and playback are solid, I'm on board. Can't answer the HDMI question, but the controllers are listed as being 2.4ghz wireless. That would be RF and not IR based which is a good thing. So there is that at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I've seen you allude to it in the NES Mini thread, but thought it was worth a new thread. And, like I said, there's still a lot of confusion between this and the previous product. My questions: Can you confirm this will be an ARM board with a fresh emulator, or is there even a chance it's still the same Genesis-on-a-chip that was found in Firecore products? Is the HDMI native, or upscaled analog? Confirm SD card support? Confirm the wireless controllers are NOT Infrared? And finally... is the system a "mini" or a full-size genesis? I'm wondering about the proportion of the cart slot to the rest of the system. Honestly, the game list looks reasonably strong (minus the public domain stuff which I'll just ignore). If the build quality and playback are solid, I'm on board. It's new emulation on an ARM-like/Android-like hardware platform. That enables all kinds of nifty features like rewind and save states (including for cartridge games). The SD products will still use "Firecore" hardware, albeit with some minor tweaks (for instance, the Genesis one now supports stereo). It's 720p native. No SD card support. All IR controllers have been officially retired. The SD products are wired only now, and the HD products are using a 2.4 GHZ Bluetooth-like technology, but also retain wired controller ports. It's like a mini Sega Genesis 1 in terms of styling (not an exact replica, but fairly close). It's a bit wider than a standard Genesis cartridge, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 By the way, a press release officially announcing almost all of the 2017 line-up will hit around E3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 It's new emulation on an ARM-like/Android-like hardware platform. That enables all kinds of nifty features like rewind and save states (including for cartridge games). The SD products will still use "Firecore" hardware, albeit with some minor tweaks (for instance, the Genesis one now supports stereo). It's 720p native. No SD card support. All IR controllers have been officially retired. The SD products are wired only now, and the HD products are using a 2.4 GHZ Bluetooth-like technology, but also retain wired controller ports. It's like a mini Sega Genesis 1 in terms of styling (not an exact replica, but fairly close). It's a bit wider than a standard Genesis cartridge, obviously. Well, I really wanted an NES Mini. This gives me a very similar experience (albeit with a completely different set and era of games) for about the same price. If the reviews don't tell me the PQ and AQ are awful, I think I'll get it. ... which I'm sure is exactly what the goal was. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Cupodcast coverage: https://t.co/iPRhyskXWw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerhomer Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I wish they would focus on quality. If handled correctly this unit would be awesome. Step one: put all the would be games on a multi-cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 How would a multi-cart be better than built-in? A cartridge would cost more and be easier to break. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I wish they would focus on quality. If handled correctly this unit would be awesome. Step one: put all the would be games on a multi-cart. There is an improved focus on quality, especially for the HD products. We'll see though if any issues present themselves in production. As for the multi-cart thing, that's not going to happen. The target demographic is about plug and play convenience. AtGames will be manufacturing some new cartridges though (separately) that I think some people without flash carts (and collector's) might find of interest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishNinja Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Bill's details make me want to be a bit more excited here, but it's still ATgames...here's to hoping for something from that announcement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyso Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 The question is : do they plan to develop their own emulator or will they discretly copy some open-source one to save development costs like Hyperkin did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 The question is : do they plan to develop their own emulator or will they discretly copy some open-source one to save development costs like Hyperkin did? AtGames always develops their own emulators. If any outside emulators will ever be used, it will be with a proper license. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If ready in time, there will be a surprise partnership announcement as well as demo units for the press at E3. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If ready in time, there will be a surprise partnership announcement as well as demo units for the press at E3. Any surprise can be a good surprise so long as it isn't the dreaded ColecoTM. That joint is bad news right now, stay away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyso Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 @Bill: thanks for your insight The release date seems to coincide with WaterMelon game Paprium (formerly known as Project Y) release date so I would not be surprised if this is the kind of partnership thatwill be announced, maybe as a bundle game who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyso Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) edit: double post Edited June 1, 2017 by philyso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillLoguidice Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 @Bill: thanks for your insight The release date seems to coincide with WaterMelon game Paprium (formerly known as Project Y) release date so I would not be surprised if this is the kind of partnership thatwill be announced, maybe as a bundle game who knows? It's not about a homebrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I hope it is not about ethics in game journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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