Flojomojo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 We should really start a pool on here and pick the date when the following things happen They announce the first delay They announce a game only to be rebuffed by the developer (I mean, have that happen again) They announce the second delay They blame their sweatshop...I mean...Chinese manufacturer on the delay They announce the cancellation and say "well sometimes that happens with crowdfunding, thanks for the money though!" There's enough gambling on this crowdfunding thing already ... but I will enjoy watching other people rant and rave when we see things like ... "we are delaying shipment of the first prototype to make it EVEN BETTER" "more announcements about games and the project's progress are still to come" "the VCS team has TONS of business meetings with 3rd party content partners to start, continue, and complete deals." "remember, all the noisy youtube videos and click-bait headlines are not credible places to get your Atari VCS info" "this is only the beginning" I don't need a crystal ball (or borrow anyone else's) to predict this, because they've already said all this. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 On their investor's site, Atari finally put out a press release about e3. Here's the translated version. Atari VCS part: The launch of Atari VCS pre-orders on the Indiegogo website, which started on May 30, 2018, meets a great success. To date, more than 10,750 units have been pre-ordered for a total amount of more than US $ 2.8 million. AT E3, Atari will pursue the negotiation of strategic partnerships aim to offer a wide range of content available to Atari users VCS. I found the beginning of the press release interesting (emph, mine): Atari, one of the leading interactive entertainment producers and publishers most famous in the world, continues its development on the occasion of the Salon E3, more Big Video Game Room in the World, Los Angeles June 12-14 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 On their investor's site, Atari finally put out a press release about e3. Here's the translated version. Atari VCS part: I found the beginning of the press release interesting (emph, mine): And they even lied in their press release, because they haven't sold 10,750 units. That's merely how many backers they have, and several thousand of them only ordered a controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 There is always uncertainty inherent in the realization of these projects, their operating budgets and their financing plan, and the failure of assumptions can affect their value. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 And they even lied in their press release, because they haven't sold 10,750 units. That's merely how many backers they have, and several thousand of them only ordered a controller units = controllers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 units = controllers too I disagree. By saying units they are clearly implying consoles. Whenever you hear the official numbers from X-Box and PS they don't include extra controllers in their "units sold" count 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladR Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'm sorry for the question, I was traveling last 2 weeks, and there's (understandably) 10 thread pages of tacos- but did they actually show some working HW prototype now that the campaign is on? Or is this still the same scam that's been going on for about a year now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Same 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 No.....and yes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 The woody has left the building. You missed your chance, suckers. My last count, as of about an hour ago- 1891 - $299 Collector's edition w/Joystick. 3727 - $339 Collector's "All-In". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladR Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I don't understand. They raised ~ $3M. Presumably from our demographics. Why would some 20-yr kid without emotional senti(de)mental attachment to Atari splurge on this after all... How could this happen in such scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to see the *day 1* wood grain be back if (and thats a big if) this thing makes it to retailers. They made it a limited time only thing to get everyone to back it ASAP before it goes away, and to make people feel all warm and fuzzy that they're getting a limited edition model. I remember day one Xbox one consoles were available like 2 years after it was released on Amazon and I remember seeing Walmart getting random shipments every now and then of them all the way into 2015 or so. Edited June 11, 2018 by Pink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Using last known numbers. Total is probably a little higher, but still close: 1891 Woody sets 385 Onyx earlybird (318+67) 696 Onyx early set (637+59) 291 Onyx all in set (91+200) 3727 Woody all in set 1451 Secret Perk 8441 total console kits (10,837 total backers) Previous numbers: Secret Perk is still active, though they may turn it off when business starts. Here's the Backerkit link. I can only see "number left" for the early birds, so I'm assuming they started with the rounded-up numbers found here. Then I added the last known numbers before they changed Early Bird to limited quantities to get a rough, if slightly low, total for each. Let me know if I missed anything. 1801 Woody sets 360* Onyx earlybird (318+42) 682* Onyx early set (637+45) 214* Onyx all in set (91+123) 3448 Woody all in set 1451 Secret Perk 7956 total console kits (10,314 total backers) 1690 Woody sets 318 Onyx earlybird 637 Onyx early set 1 Onyx full price [REMOVED?] 1 Onyx full price set [REMOVED?] 91 Onyx all in set 2993 Woody all in set 1409 Special Perk 7138 total console kits (9242 total backers) Backerkit tracking link. An official explanation on Backerkit's prediction and trending models. Speaking of Tempest 4000, I thought this was interesting. Llamasoft has not developed a Linux port and has no insider knowledge of the AtariBox whatsoever. Considering how outspoken their main developer has been about other issues (sample -- you can probably imagine much Italian waving of hands), I don't think this is the NDA telling them to shut up. He's also stated that it could just be running in WINE, as it's not a graphically intense game. The Steam screens we've seen could be the "Big Picture" from a streaming device, not running natively. The Tempest 4000 demo we've seen could have had something other than AtariBox driving it. I'm guessing the backers don't know, or don't care. BTW latest tally of systems only (count the controllers yourself if you care -- click on "back it" to get the current tally) 1549 Woody sets 244 Onyx earlybird 566 Onyx early set 1 Onyx full price 1 Onyx full price set 149 Onyx all in set 2594 Woody all in set 5104 total edit: and maybe another 1400 "hidden perks?" Should they be included or counted separately? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+x=usr(1536) Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Using last known numbers. Total is probably a little higher, but still close: 1891 Woody sets 385 Onyx earlybird (318+67) 696 Onyx early set (637+59) 291 Onyx all in set (91+200) 3727 Woody all in set 1451 Secret Perk 8441 total console kits (10,837 total backers) 1891 Woody sets + 3727 Woody all-in sets = 5618 Woodies (giggle) 8441 Total sets - 5618 Woody sets = 2823 other sets So the super-rare, only available for the next nine minutes, never-to-be-offered-for-sale-again Woody sets have outsold the other sets by near enough to a 2:1 margin as doesn't matter, thus making the ultra-collectible Woody the most common model by quite a significant amount at this time. Awesome! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rane Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I don't understand. They raised ~ $3M. Presumably from our demographics. Why would some 20-yr kid without emotional senti(de)mental attachment to Atari splurge on this after all... How could this happen in such scale? I went through Backerkit a few days ago looking for a project with as big of a drop off in backers/money raised between day 1 and day 2 and couldn't even find one that came close to what the Atari VCS did. I heavily believe that they had a lot of fake backers on day 1 to generate hype. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I heavily believe that they had a lot of fake backers on day 1 to generate hype. There are many others, myself included, who also think this could very well be the case. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I went through Backerkit a few days ago looking for a project with as big of a drop off in backers/money raised between day 1 and day 2 and couldn't even find one that came close to what the Atari VCS did. I heavily believe that they had a lot of fake backers on day 1 to generate hype. It could also be collector speculators too jumping in and hoping for a rare collector item. Also something I noticed that backs up your point is the massive amount of anonymous contributors, because that's a lot higher than I have seen before as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I disagree. By saying units they are clearly implying consoles. Yes, but they were also clearly implying that Tempest 4000 was running on the VCS, too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Yes, but they were also clearly implying that Tempest 4000 was running on the VCS, too. They implied that Tempest 4k was running, which was a lie. And they implied they sold 10k consoles, which is also a lie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 How could this happen in such scale? Eight thousand chumps out of a country of 300 million (assuming overseas people don't want to overpay for customs and shipping since Atari doesn't seem to have worked out distribution yet)? I would take this as proof that Atari can flex its brand to a certain extent, but no more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Even more lies. An AtacoVCS coin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Eight thousand chumps out of a country of 300 million (assuming overseas people don't want to overpay for customs and shipping since Atari doesn't seem to have worked out distribution yet)? I would take this as proof that Atari can flex its brand to a certain extent, but no more. What I want to know is how a French-owned company (like, oh, say, AtariVCSboxCorp, Inc.) can't figure out how to distribute products to customers in the EU from within the EU in the first place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoRacer Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Just think. Right now, at e3, some poor basted just got handed a business card from an atari rep who's begging them to support them with software. And that card took an immediate trip to the garbage can. Edited June 12, 2018 by MotoRacer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 It might be mentioned before but for any future trolls that read this: I believe Atari SA (which is NOT the old ATARI) is pulling wool over everyone's eyes, especially backers, into thinking they ARE Atari-which they are not. They're the company formally known as Infogrames. When was the last time INFOGRAMES made a console besides that plastic box they're pushing now? I don't even think INFOGRAMES has had any experience in creating a console. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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