DracIsBack Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) While I was looking on the web for some Atari Corp headquarter photos, I accidentally came across this. Strange that Toki was nearly done yet the monies were applied to the other two Source: https://assemblergames.com/threads/atari-7800-toki-imagitec-design-atari-corp-files.66320/ Edited February 5, 2018 by DracIsBack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Really strange decision as the system desperately needed more platform games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 More history. Interesting to see Atari's test reports and project planning process https://assemblergames.com/threads/atari-7800-toki-imagitec-design-atari-corp-files.66320/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 This thread, if you scroll down, talks into debates over milestones and payment for Rampart and also includes test feedback on the 7800 Electrocop! https://assemblergames.com/threads/the-atari-panther-the-game-claims-uk-press-coverage-etc.66307/#post-943292 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Those are from the Zip files Scott Stilphen kindly passed onto myself and i converted to JPEG format, for the likes of Assembler forum, Atarimania etc. I put them up, hoping more info might come to light, as until i had seen them, i had no idea Imagitec Design were involved with a version of Toki for the 7800.. They never seem to mention it, just Rampart and Pitfighter. Those were all the documents related to these games and Electrocop that were in there. There were an awful lot of Lynx documents..these have been passed onto Atarimania, as they are in the process of building a dedicated Lynx section. Thanks again to Scott for sharing the files and glad folks like them.. Made it worth while converting and posting them up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 So no issue if we post some of the salient Atari ones in the forums here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 So no issue if we post some of the salient Atari ones in the forums here? Please do.. Lost Games research is a community affair. If it wasn't for the kindness of Scott Stilphen, Luca from Unseen64 and Frank Gasking on GTW and people on here, i would never of been able to find a fraction of the people or information that has been found. The more people who see the documents, the more chance we have of fresh information coming forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wow, Toki would have worked well on the 7800, and as save2600 said, would have been a nice platformer to have. How much to develop an Atari 7800 game in those days? $10,000, or more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 IN 2018, $10K would be around $18,425. At least now there's proof that Electrocop did exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 At least now there's proof that Electrocop did exist. I thought the graphics surfaced a few years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Tom Gillen is sadly no longer with us... His passing is a great loss to the community. . But maybe Ted or Hans might be able to shed more light on a few lost titles? If either is reading and the files jog your memory, we would love to know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I thought the graphics surfaced a few years ago? They did... Amy Hemming also talked about it here: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/12/02/storytellers-of-the-decade_3a00_-amy-henning-interview.aspx Further attempts to contact her were made (not by myself) but she never replied. Julie Wade was also supposed to of had a couple of test carts in a drawer which Jack Tramiel ordered destroyed, but she didn't do after Jack did the dirty on her..or so the story went. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 Wow, Toki would have worked well on the 7800, and as save2600 said, would have been a nice platformer to have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 I thought the graphics surfaced a few years ago? Yeah - the mockups are in here http://atariage.com/forums/topic/225862-electrocop-for-7800/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 IN 2018, $10K would be around $18,425. At least now there's proof that Electrocop did exist. I once met someone who played it at CES. It existed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Toki Rampart Sirius Electrocop Plutos Paperboy Skyfox Rescue On Fractalus What a console the 7800 could of been..sigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I wish they had finished Rampart. Love that game, and it would have brought another two player simultaneous title to the 7800's library. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I should of read this http://www.atariprotos.com/rumormill/7800/7800rumor.htm before posting that above. My brain must be turning into mush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If I was at the store when all 3 of these games could have been on the shelf at the same time for the 7800 I would have bought Toki before Pit Fighter or Rampart. It's like they said no to 1 great game and invested the money and time into 2 lesser games instead. At the end of the day we didn't see any of them make it to the store. Silly Atari. Well at least we have the tech demo for Rampart, playable demo of Pit Fighter and soon to have a full version of Toki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sgrddy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It's amazing and unfortunate how cheap Atari was at the time. $10k is peanuts. If they would have spent a little here and there on some serious development of software, the 7800, the Lynx could have fared so much better. It would have only taken a few titles that were truly special. We can still do it though. Heck, Atari should do it. The press coverage alone would pay for the development cost for 8 bit software. It would generate buzz (like "the New 8 bit Heroes"). Then they could release a "7800 mini" with a bunch of built in killer 8 bit apps. Just my dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It's amazing and unfortunate how cheap Atari was at the time. $10k is peanuts. If they would have spent a little here and there on some serious development of software, the 7800, the Lynx could have fared so much better. It would have only taken a few titles that were truly special. We can still do it though. Heck, Atari should do it. The press coverage alone would pay for the development cost for 8 bit software. It would generate buzz (like "the New 8 bit Heroes"). Then they could release a "7800 mini" with a bunch of built in killer 8 bit apps. Just my dream. All rendered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If I was at the store when all 3 of these games could have been on the shelf at the same time for the 7800 I would have bought Toki before Pit Fighter or Rampart. It's like they said no to 1 great game and invested the money and time into 2 lesser games instead. At the end of the day we didn't see any of them make it to the store. Silly Atari. Well at least we have the tech demo for Rampart, playable demo of Pit Fighter and soon to have a full version of Toki. C'mon, Rampart is an amazing game. Pit Fighter, though...ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 C'mon, Rampart is an amazing game. Pit Fighter, though...ugh. Just personal preference that I pick Toki over Rampart. I'm a big fan of side scrollers. I agree that Rampart is a good title for sure and would have helped the 7800 big time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 We can still do it though. Heck, Atari should do it. The press coverage alone would pay for the development cost for 8 bit software. It would generate buzz (like "the New 8 bit Heroes"). Then they could release a "7800 mini" with a bunch of built in killer 8 bit apps. Just my dream. Unfortunately, most people don't even know what a 7800 is. Also, Atari does not presently have a particularly large library of 7800 games available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sgrddy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Unfortunately, most people don't even know what a 7800 is. Also, Atari does not presently have a particularly large library of 7800 games available. What I meant was for the development of new titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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