SuperDork3000 Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 I want to start to develope jaguar games. I need: Alpine board Jaguar with dev rom Jaguar cd with dev rom Dev manual flash cart computer(of course) This is all I need right? Tell me if i'm missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 funny...i have been told that i need this: atari jaguar atari jaguar cd bjl cable cd bypass cart or protector se or battlesphere gold. or did i miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 I want to start to develope jaguar games. I need:Alpine board Jaguar with dev rom Jaguar cd with dev rom Dev manual flash cart computer(of course) This is all I need right? Tell me if i'm missing something Depends what you want to do. You can get away with a BJL Jag and cable, and a PC. Flash carts aren't much use for development, they were used much more for showing off the final product (far too slow to do anything iterative on). Standard cart dev was done on Alpines, true, but they really aren't necessary to start with. You can start any CD with BJL /RAM-based routines, so you don't need a dev CD drive. Maybe I just saved you some cash...dunno :-) Moral basically is to get into it on a BJL before you decide to go the whole hog with an Alpine, then realise you don't have time or don't want to do it any more. Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDork3000 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 I want to start to develope jaguar games. I need:Alpine board Jaguar with dev rom Jaguar cd with dev rom Dev manual flash cart computer(of course) This is all I need right? Tell me if i'm missing something Depends what you want to do. You can get away with a BJL Jag and cable, and a PC. Flash carts aren't much use for development, they were used much more for showing off the final product (far too slow to do anything iterative on). Standard cart dev was done on Alpines, true, but they really aren't necessary to start with. You can start any CD with BJL /RAM-based routines, so you don't need a dev CD drive. Maybe I just saved you some cash...dunno :-) Moral basically is to get into it on a BJL before you decide to go the whole hog with an Alpine, then realise you don't have time or don't want to do it any more. Stone Cool, where can I get one of these BGL Jags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Cool, where can I get one of these BGL Jags? You can mod your own, following the excellent instructions available from several different sites on the Net. Or you could give me money and a console to do it Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Depends what you want to do. You can get away with a BJL Jag and cable, and a PC. Flash carts aren't much use for development, they were used much more for showing off the final product (far too slow to do anything iterative on). Standard cart dev was done on Alpines, true, but they really aren't necessary to start with. Stone is right about flash cards. They're a little slow for downloading code into except for small programs. What seems fast at first can become an amazingly long load time the 20th time you load in code to try and track down a bug. Of course, Alpines have the best facilities for doing debug work. They allow setting breakpoints and single-stepping through code, examining registers, etc. I am told you can do some portion of these debug activities with BJL, but only if you connect to an Atari ST/TT/F030 computer. Debugging is not available on a PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Cool, where can I get one of these BGL Jags? You can mod your own, following the excellent instructions available from several different sites on the Net. Or you could give me money and a console to do it Stone If you can't do it yourself let me "officially" recommend Stone for this mod. He did mine and did a FANTASTIC job on it! THANKS STONE! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Czarnowski Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 I want to start to develope jaguar games. I need:Alpine board Jaguar with dev rom Jaguar cd with dev rom Dev manual flash cart computer(of course) This is all I need right? Tell me if i'm missing something Actually you also need dev software like MAC and ALN. As others said there is more than one way to code on your own... I believe that for simple code you can get away with one of emulators and dev tools. It would be enough to at least get a clue how the dev process look like and it probably the cheapest option (especially for start). Also setting up all atari dev tools isn't so simple and Alpine has some timing problems on some PC's. I recommend DOS or Linux dev tools. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Czarnowski Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 I would also recommend looking at the sample and workshop files that atari supplied with dev tools. You can learn a lot from them. It also worth to take a look at Jaguar Underground Docs. You can find it on Starcat site. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDork3000 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Cool, where can I get one of these BGL Jags? You can mod your own, following the excellent instructions available from several different sites on the Net. Or you could give me money and a console to do it Stone I will take a shot at it trying to mod my own. If I fail I will get you to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 the pizza guy pissed im my marinara sauce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDork3000 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Ok next question is, where do I get a BGL boot rom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Ok next question is, where do I get a BGL boot rom? BJL. It's not called a Gaguar Find someone with an EPROM burner and get them to do it. If not I can root around and see if I have a spare anywhere here. Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDork3000 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Ok next question is, where do I get a BGL boot rom? BJL. It's not called a Gaguar Find someone with an EPROM burner and get them to do it. If not I can root around and see if I have a spare anywhere here. Stone Cool! Let me know if you find one Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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