spinnaker15136 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Still need to get to hooking up my 810. (so many other things to do ) But I am not holding any hopes that I will get ti working as it was giving me fits years ago when I put it away. As a replacement, what should I look for? I was going to go for the 1050 but is there a certain version I should buy? Is there a good source for these? I found this place http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/8-bit_.htm#SIO2 But they are out of stock. There is also someone on ebay that completely refurbishes them. That looks interesting. I figure if I am going to spend the money, might as well spend a bit more and get a refurbished one. He replaces all of the filter caps and any other parts as needed, does a calibration, the whole deal. Are there clones out there? I checked into 5.25 inch drives thinking I could design my own interface but they are almost expensive as the full Atari drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 810's are tanks, so long as you deoxit the card edge and pin connectors and clean and seat the chips it should be good to go again... it's the nature of the beast Any 1050 with us doubler or happy is a good thing.... I've been using quads and 8's for an eternity, and am getting ready to put an 8 inch back online in the near future.. It all depends on what you are going for and want to do... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I'd definitely have faith the 810 will work. Like any mechanical device, a little cleaning and lubricating should get it going nicely again. With that said, if you're still interested in buying a refurbed working 1050 afterwards, send me a PM - I have too many. I can install your choice of upgrade in it as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I've been using quads and 8's for an eternity Once more in normal people speak?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberto Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Still need to get to hooking up my 810. (so many other things to do ) But I am not holding any hopes that I will get ti working as it was giving me fits years ago when I put it away. As a replacement, what should I look for? I was going to go for the 1050 but is there a certain version I should buy? Is there a good source for these? I found this place http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/8-bit_.htm#SIO2 But they are out of stock. There is also someone on ebay that completely refurbishes them. That looks interesting. I figure if I am going to spend the money, might as well spend a bit more and get a refurbished one. He replaces all of the filter caps and any other parts as needed, does a calibration, the whole deal. Are there clones out there? I checked into 5.25 inch drives thinking I could design my own interface but they are almost expensive as the full Atari drive. That gotta be my Ebay add https://www.ebay.com/itm/202650901767 Refurbished is a big word to me. I have bought items on Ebay that they claimed they were refurbished and when I cracked them open, they had insect cacoon's inside. The 810 is a bullet proof tank. I have two and purchased as non working, cleaned the connectors and they worked great. Replace the caps on the power board and should last for another 40 years. Edited April 13, 2019 by Umberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 That gotta be my Ebay add https://www.ebay.com/itm/202650901767 Refurbished is a big word to me. I have bought items on Ebay that they claimed they were refurbished and when I cracked them open, they had insect cacoon's inside. The 810 is a bullet proof tank. I have two and purchased as non working, cleaned the connectors and they worked great. Replace the caps on the power board and should last for another 40 years. Yep that is it. Sent you a message on connectors via eBay. Can you check please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 I'd definitely have faith the 810 will work. Like any mechanical device, a little cleaning and lubricating should get it going nicely again. With that said, if you're still interested in buying a refurbed working 1050 afterwards, send me a PM - I have too many. I can install your choice of upgrade in it as well. Any tips on what to clean the edge connectors with? Best has an alignment disk. Is it worth purchasing? I recall doing that years ago when I serviced IBM PCs but I can't remember the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Any tips on what to clean the edge connectors with? Best has an alignment disk. Is it worth purchasing? I recall doing that years ago when I serviced IBM PCs but I can't remember the details. Ah I see. There is actually a product called deoxit. Should it be available locally in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Lowes has something called CRC contact cleaner https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRC-Contact-Cleaner/999964587 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet. In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up. CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job. Edited April 14, 2019 by DrVenkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Of course, there is always the Indus GT option if you don't plan to modify it. It's a shame no one ever came out with a happy mod (or something similar) for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Once more in normal people speak? Yeah, I know what he means by the 8's (8-inch floppy drives) but not the "quads". Of course that's probably 9:30 Sunday morning cloudyhead and I'll feel stupid when he actually tells is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Yeah, I know what he means by the 8's (8-inch floppy drives) but not the "quads". Of course that's probably 9:30 Sunday morning cloudyhead and I'll feel stupid when he actually tells is what it is. I read it as “8 inch quad-density disks.” *shrug* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberto Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Yep that is it. Sent you a message on connectors via eBay. Can you check please? You can get power bricks just about any where: $15 https://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Power-for-9VAC-AC-Atari-CO17945-400-800-810-850-1010-1050-1200XL-Replacement-Ac-Dc-adapter-Switching-Power-supply-Cord-Charger/129729262?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3824&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9033519&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113728525&wl11=online&wl12=129729262&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMvlBRDmARIsAEoQ8zTLYKLLHsj-CyRiNVd5HIFxLqYzGw1eghFZF1a0HjQLXoJKhxwZQqMaAg_oEALw_wcB SIO cables and connectors I would check with: Best, http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/ B&C Computervision http://www.myatari.com/ , you will have to call bruce direct since his price list are down Lotharek for cables and connectors https://lotharek.pl/ and again around $15 Since your a forum member I'll knock $10 from the price Check out my reviews (its my wife's store, but I sell all the retro computer stuff) https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=slangley123&myworld=true&items=25&iid=-1&de=off&which=positive&interval=365 Rob Edited April 14, 2019 by Umberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet. In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up. CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job. Going to the auto parts store now to get oil for the lawn mower. I will inquire thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 You can get power bricks just about any where: $15 https://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Power-for-9VAC-AC-Atari-CO17945-400-800-810-850-1010-1050-1200XL-Replacement-Ac-Dc-adapter-Switching-Power-supply-Cord-Charger/129729262?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3824&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9033519&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113728525&wl11=online&wl12=129729262&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMvlBRDmARIsAEoQ8zTLYKLLHsj-CyRiNVd5HIFxLqYzGw1eghFZF1a0HjQLXoJKhxwZQqMaAg_oEALw_wcB SIO cables and connectors I would check with: Best, http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/ B&C Computervision http://www.myatari.com/ , you will have to call bruce direct since his price list are down Lotharek for cables and connectors https://lotharek.pl/ and again around $15 Since your a forum member I'll knock $10 from the price Check out my reviews (its my wife's store, but I sell all the retro computer stuff) https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=slangley123&myworld=true&items=25&iid=-1&de=off&which=positive&interval=365 Rob Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay. So what are the power requirements for the 1050? What voltage and current? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay. So what are the power requirements for the 1050? What voltage and current? The 1050 uses the same 9VAC transformer used by the 400, 800, and 1200XL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberto Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay. So what are the power requirements for the 1050? What voltage and current? As Dr Venkman stated standard 9VAC 50 watt or so, pretty common and easy to find, be careful from buying used on Ebay, very common they come with a blown fuse. The fuse can be replaced but a pain and you kinda destroy the case. All they are is a transformer and a fuse. Edited April 14, 2019 by Umberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 You can get power bricks just about any where: $15 https://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Power-for-9VAC-AC-Atari-CO17945-400-800-810-850-1010-1050-1200XL-Replacement-Ac-Dc-adapter-Switching-Power-supply-Cord-Charger/129729262?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3824&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9033519&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113728525&wl11=online&wl12=129729262&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMvlBRDmARIsAEoQ8zTLYKLLHsj-CyRiNVd5HIFxLqYzGw1eghFZF1a0HjQLXoJKhxwZQqMaAg_oEALw_wcB The power supply linked there is only 1A. This may work on a 400, 800, 1010, or 850, but is not enough for an 810 or 1050. Those need 2.1A minimum. Even the smallest Atari 400 PSU was 15VA, so 1A (9VA) is likely not enough for those too. Also it's highly likely the connector on the linked supply is 2.1mm x 5.5mm, which is too small, These Atari computers & peripherals need 2.5mm x 5.5mm. Either by cutting and replacing the connector on the end, or with an adapter like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/153004915738 This one at walmart looks more likely to be a higher amperage, but they do what the chinese ebayers do and blur out the specs on the label so you can't see.... https://www.walmart.com/ip/ABLEGRID-9V-AC-AC-Adapter-For-ART-TubeMP-Tube-MP-Studio-Mic-Microphone-Preamp-AC9V-9VAC-Power-Supply-Cord-Cable-PS-Wall-Home-Charger-Mains-PSU/754039103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 As Dr Venkman stated standard 9VAC 50 watt or so, pretty common and easy to find, be careful from buying used on Ebay, very common they come with a blown fuse. The fuse can be replaced but a pain and you kinda destroy the case. All they are is a transformer and a fuse. Actually I have one from the 810. I also need to check my huge stock to see if I have a wall wart that would fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I recommend these for 810 and 410 replacements https://www.ebay.com/p/Vintage-Telex-9251-Reel-to-Reel-Computer-Mainframe-Server-Data-Tape-Drive/15020226388?iid=264257629917 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Burroughs-B90-Mainframe-8-Floppy-Drive-Super-Rare-Vintage/122904436385?hash=item1c9dacdea1:g:we8AAOSwCtJaU-sD:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!74039!US!-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 I recommend these for 810 and 410 replacements https://www.ebay.com/p/Vintage-Telex-9251-Reel-to-Reel-Computer-Mainframe-Server-Data-Tape-Drive/15020226388?iid=264257629917 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Burroughs-B90-Mainframe-8-Floppy-Drive-Super-Rare-Vintage/122904436385?hash=item1c9dacdea1:g:we8AAOSwCtJaU-sD:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!74039!US!-1 LOL. My buddy has had a whole garage full of DEC equipment for years. I keep trying to tell him to sell on eBay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnaker15136 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet. In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up. CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job. I got the actual deoxit since it is so highly recommend. Only place nearby that handle it is Guitar Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1050 Power Supply (transformer) Part #: C017945. Call Best Electronics.. 408-278-1070 (1:30 - 5 PM, PST, M - F) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh156 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Hi, pulled the Atari 800/810 out after 30years. Both worked. But after a day the power brick for the 810 didn’t work. Bought new one. Disk drive powers on but now it won’t boot anything up. I hear a quick spin I think, a snort and then just doesn’t do anything. assuming it’s either the need to clean mentioned below OR before the power brick stopped working g it shorted out something in the drive. Any recommendations on troubleshooting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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