Thunderbird Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 I for one am very glad Thunderbird is excluded from the serious developer group(s), as it allows the people with real coding skills to get on with actually coding and not endlessly arguing about who has the best "kung foo". I find it very interesting to note that EVERY locked topic in the Jaguar forum involved an argument with Thunderbird. Without wanting to start yet another argument, I think thats more than a coincidence, dont you? Oh, and the groups arnt just invitation only, there is one other, special, requirement for entry *giggles*. Sometimes it seems as though people wonder why I don't put any effort into detailing and documenting my jaguar coding experience. I often get asked why I don't write tutorials or write sample programs, or make instructions on how to make boxes or cases or things of that nature. In the end it boils down to the fact that I'll give help in private to people who seem trustworthy. But that's as far as it goes. I don't want people like Tyrant and his Jaguar Überground to derive any benefit from my work. As long as there exists members with an attitude like his, and the remaining members tolerate and/or encourage it. Call it a Vendetta? No. It's simple common sense and manners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 I don't want people like Tyrant and his Jaguar Überground to derive any benefit from my work. Umm.... Im not sure which group your talking about, but none of them are "mine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 10, 2003 Author Share Posted July 10, 2003 I don't want people like Tyrant and his Jaguar Überground to derive any benefit from my work. Umm.... Im not sure which group your talking about, but none of them are "mine". Any group that you belong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 AtariAge? Can't we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 Use the force luke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 ive noticed what tyrant said to be generally true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 11, 2003 Author Share Posted July 11, 2003 ive noticed what tyrant said to be generally true.. You are right. the only exception is when he's typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 ive noticed what tyrant said to be generally true.. You are right. the only exception is when he's typing. Oh please grow up and shut up, your not even funny any more, please, do the forums a favor and stop posting crap like this before your banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Oh please grow up and shut up, your not even funny any more, please, do the forums a favor and stop posting crap like this before your banned. You should talk... Please give it a rest! You have taken every opportunity in the last few weeks to derail any topic you see Thunderbird posting in... Granted I haven't exactly enjoyed all the flame wars surrounding Thunderbird over the years, but I have found that he usually only ends up arguing with very stubborn types who won't let anything go.. you seem to have been caught in that trap. Just let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Please stop all this... just ignore each others messages.... seems to be the best solution here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 11, 2003 Author Share Posted July 11, 2003 ive noticed what tyrant said to be generally true.. You are right. the only exception is when he's typing. Oh please grow up and shut up, your not even funny any more, please, do the forums a favor and stop posting crap like this before your banned. I read the rules and it looks like I'm safe. Apparently, the only way a person can get banned is if they don't know the difference between "Your" and "You're". Seeya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 If this crap doesn't stop, then I will take steps to make sure it doesn't continue. ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 I think people should be smart enough to ignore the messages they don't like to avoid flame wars it's not worth it. So I would like to say to both of them, just stop with this... I visit this board to read about the Jaguar related material that interests me not some personal war... TXG/MNX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maarten Martens Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 To Thunderbird : You know, I think it would be great if you could spread your wisdom (coding skills) among the jaguar comunity by tutorials or help files. I think it would definitely benefit from it, as there might be more people interested in starting to code. Of course, you don't have to start writing mega complex stuff about creating a Battlesphere engine or something like that. But helpfull docs, I really think it would make a differnce ... Greetz, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted July 11, 2003 Share Posted July 11, 2003 Oh please grow up and shut up, your not even funny any more, please, do the forums a favor and stop posting crap like this before your banned. You should talk... Please give it a rest! You have taken every opportunity in the last few weeks to derail any topic you see Thunderbird posting in... Granted I haven't exactly enjoyed all the flame wars surrounding Thunderbird over the years, but I have found that he usually only ends up arguing with very stubborn types who won't let anything go.. you seem to have been caught in that trap. Just let go. This is basically true, but T-bird IS one of those "stubborn types that won't let anything go." Best thing anyone here can do for themselves is do what I did; put him on your ignore list, that's what I did, and it's great stuff! Ahh...a board I can enjoy again with only slight annoyance by T-bird when people actually take the time to quote him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 I believe it was in AGH that there was an interview with someone from Id about JagDoom. When asked about the networking errors, their reply was something to the effect of 'Talk to Atari, it's their hardware problem.' Is this the same bug everyone is referring too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 And just to be clear, I have played plenty of JagDoom networked. I always was under the impression the network errors were the results of being rushed, even heard stories that Id wasn't supplied with any way to test if the network worked or not. in other words I heard they weren't given any Jaglink cables because they weren't available yet. So it is a hardware problem and not a result of the software being rushed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 12, 2003 Author Share Posted July 12, 2003 I believe it was in AGH that there was an interview with someone from Id about JagDoom. When asked about the networking errors, their reply was something to the effect of 'Talk to Atari, it's their hardware problem.' Is this the same bug everyone is referring too? They never made it clear which networking bug they couldn't fix, so we'll never know which one they're referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lais Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 And just to be clear, I have played plenty of JagDoom networked. I always was under the impression the network errors were the results of being rushed, even heard stories that Id wasn't supplied with any way to test if the network worked or not. in other words I heard they weren't given any Jaglink cables because they weren't available yet. So it is a hardware problem and not a result of the software being rushed? Read this: http://www.myatari.net/issues/jan2001/jaguar.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 They never made it clear which networking bug they couldn't fix, so we'll never know which one they're referring to. Actually the errors in Doom networking were already fixed by some of the people in the Doom-dev Yahoo! group. Ask them. Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 12, 2003 Author Share Posted July 12, 2003 They never made it clear which networking bug they couldn't fix, so we'll never know which one they're referring to. Actually the errors in Doom networking were already fixed by some of the people in the Doom-dev Yahoo! group. Ask them. Stone That makes me wonder someone from that group recently approached me and asked if I could help them fix the networking errors. Someone is not being quite honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 That makes me wonder someone from that group recently approached me and asked if I could help them fix the networking errors. Someone is not being quite honest. I don't know, I just heard someone had fixed them. They posted about it on JI2, iirc. Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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