chewy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 so does this rom somehow have a way of bypassing the vcs cpu and provides its own? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4541763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, chewy said: so does this rom somehow have a way of bypassing the vcs cpu and provides its own? Not exactly. It is using an ARM processor to do a lot of the data processing and game logic, but that is done during vblank and overscan (when the screen is not being drawn). The VCS still needs to draw the screen and is limited to 76 CPU cycles per line and can only use VCS registers (low resolution playfield, 2 player sprites, 2 missile sprites and 1 ball sprite). So, in short, it is using both CPUs. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4541770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keebz Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Well I know that this isn't possible on the 2600, that's just common sense. So my logical conclusion is that John Champeau broke into my house (in the middle of a pandemic no less) and tinkered with the insides of my prized heavy sixer. How dare you break into my home... you could have just asked, I would have let you in. This is seriously amazing. I have two insta-buys with ChampGames now... just waiting. Got them stimy dollas waiting for ya! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, keebz said: Got them stimy dollas waiting for ya! Not sure if I've heard that term before Stymie Dollar: 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (pursuant to post #34) Re: not having a Quadtari, but wanting to use a Savekey or Atarivox to save high scores when using both joysticks... isn't there a potential risk hot swapping those peripherals in and out? Can sometimes be bad news with passive stuff like joysticks obviously, but would think there would be an even greater chance of damage with powered peripherals. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, save2600 said: Re: not having a Quadtari, but wanting to use a Savekey or Atarivox to save high scores when using both joysticks... isn't there a potential risk hot swapping those peripherals in and out? Can sometimes be bad news with passive stuff like joysticks obviously, but would think there would be an even greater chance of damage with powered peripherals. I agree, I don't think inserting/removing a Savekey/Avox will be a viable solution. ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug0909 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Johnny is there any chance you could get my Simon to play Red Dead Redemption? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Here is my video of Robotron 2084, absolutely had a blast playing it. Also note the WIP I share is an update from the demo and shows beyond Wave 9 Also, make sure to play the video in 60fps. Edited May 21, 2020 by swlovinist 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Nice video! I noticed a cheap death at the beginning of wave 10 - electrode in the middle of the screen. Probably need to fix that. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevnaguy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, swlovinist said: Here is my video of Robotron 2084, absolutely had a blast playing it. Also note the WIP I share is an update from the demo and shows beyond Wave 9 Also, make sure to play the video in 60fps. I absolutely love what Champ Games has done! I cant stop playing the demo so excited about this game coming out! I like that dual dpad controller you are using! I plan on getting a Edladdin Super Twin to have arcade joysticks (and may make a custom overlay for it themed to Robotron ) 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nathan Strum said: Nice video! I noticed a cheap death at the beginning of wave 10 - electrode in the middle of the screen. Probably need to fix that. I can confirm that it’s happened to my son too. We can’t stop playing this game. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nathan Strum said: I noticed a cheap death at the beginning of wave 10 - electrode in the middle of the screen. Probably need to fix that. Yeah, I saw that as well, definitely should not happen. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Nathan Strum said: I noticed a cheap death at the beginning of wave 10 - electrode in the middle of the screen. Probably need to fix that. 37 minutes ago, sramirez2008 said: I can confirm that it’s happened to my son too. 33 minutes ago, Albert said: Yeah, I saw that as well, definitely should not happen. I put that in on purpose to see who would watch the entire video. Congratulations, you all passed the test! Seriously though; it look like this only happens on wave 10 with the larger electrodes so it probably has something to do with that. I'll make sure it's fixed for the next demo! 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, johnnywc said: I put that in on purpose to see who would watch the entire video. Congratulations, you all passed the test! Seriously though; it look like this only happens on wave 10 with the larger electrodes so it probably has something to do with that. I'll make sure it's fixed for the next demo! ? ? ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 John, this really great! I've never played Robotron before so this is all new to me. Unfortunately, I'm no great gamer. I'll have to improve a lot as I haven't made it past level 3 yet. I'm only using a single joystick though... This will be sacrilege for sure, but I was wondering how good this would play with 2 trackballs and autofire on? Might be a blast. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Omegamatrix said: This will be sacrilege for sure, but I was wondering how good this would play with 2 trackballs and autofire on? Might be a blast. Sounds exhausting!! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Omegamatrix said: This will be sacrilege for sure, but I was wondering how good this would play with 2 trackballs and autofire on? Might be a blast. Look forward to seeing Robotron TB in the Atari 2600 Trak-Ball Games thread.? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug0909 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Would it be possible to move or fire with the Atari Brainlink? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Player Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Omegamatrix said: This will be sacrilege for sure, but I was wondering how good this would play with 2 trackballs and autofire on? Might be a blast. A trackball could work for movement but, as Cafeman said, it would be exhausting because you almost never want to stop firing. Your fire will not harm the humans. One time to stop would be if there is only one killable enemy left on the screen but still humans left to save. Rolling the ball constantly would soon get tiring. And there are times when you need to fire quickly in multiple directions. I can't see that trackball handling that well. But give it a try, maybe it will work for you. With the Champ Games version, I found that I like reversing the controls and moving with my right hand. Edited May 21, 2020 by Big Player clean up the wording Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Omegamatrix said: John, this really great! I've never played Robotron before so this is all new to me. Unfortunately, I'm no great gamer. I'll have to improve a lot as I haven't made it past level 3 yet. I'm only using a single joystick though... This will be sacrilege for sure, but I was wondering how good this would play with 2 trackballs and autofire on? Might be a blast. ZOMG as someone who's put many hours in the arcade game, I laughed at the thought of using two Trak-Balls to play Robotron. I just don't see that working well at all, Robotron requires snap and precise movements, and I think a Trak-Ball would just be way too sloppy for this. But I'd love to watch a video of you trying to play it that way! ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4542993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Albert said: ZOMG as someone who's put many hours in the arcade game, I laughed at the thought of using two Trak-Balls to play Robotron. I just don't see that working well at all, Robotron requires snap and precise movements, and I think a Trak-Ball would just be way too sloppy for this. But I'd love to watch a video of you trying to play it that way! ..Al The real fun begins by playing two Robotron games at once... four Trak-Balls, both hands, and both feet. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4543001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Omegamatrix said: The real fun begins by playing two Robotron games at once... four Trak-Balls, both hands, and both feet. I want some of what you're smoking. ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4543004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/17/2020 at 3:08 PM, mmervine said: Just gave this a try with my Robotron controller that Mike (RetroGameBoyz) made for me. All I can say is awesome! Amazing work from John and the team from Champ Games! I suspect Mike (RetroGameBoyz) will soon see a spike in sales for this controller. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4543018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I have a couple Playstation controllers paired with the Mac mini that drives my TV. I went into Stella and configured the right analog stick of controller 0 as joystick P1: I can now play Robotron 2084 using both analog sticks, works great! Now we just need to get @GroovyBee to resurrect his GB-XC1 Playstation controller interface so we can do this on real hardware! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4543272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, SpiceWare said: Now we just need to get @GroovyBee to resurrect his GB-XC1 Playstation controller interface so we can do this on real hardware! Ohh, I missed this thread. Thank you Darrell. I don’t normally play via emulation, but after watching Willie’s “Arcade USA” video, I did the same with our PS4 controllers and Stella. My younger son really got into playing Robotron this way.? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/306912-champ-games-robotwar-2684-aka-robotron2084-2600/page/3/#findComment-4543282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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