Randy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Hi all, just a couple of quick questions about US, from what I see it connects to the hard drive port of the ST correct? However, I need to buy the cable for that connection when I buy the UltraSatan. After that , it's just ply and play using Peter's hard drive utilities, correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkdluG Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Yup, that's pretty much it. You need a SD card as well. You can also use ICD Pro driver which is free or HDDriver which cost a bit more then Peters HD driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I'm pretty sure that's the case Randy. I finally received my US about a month ago after about a three-month Covid delay. I haven't had time to hook it up and play with it yet, but I'm anxious to check it out. I've seen various users mention using one or the other of the three main driver options, ICD Pro driver, HDDriver, and Peter's HD driver, but I don't think I've seen a major breakdown or comparison of them. I'd like to see a good comparison listing features, pros & cons of each. I know the ICD Pro is free, and I don't mind paying for one of the other two, but I don't want to pay for both to determine which is the best for my needs. Has anyone seen a comparison like this anywhere? I'm pretty sure there's a trial of Peter's on the SD card I ordered with my US. Is there a trial version of HDDriver? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylaffer Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 First of all, the driver will make OS "see" US as a hard drive. But then no matter which driver you use you will need to create partitions on that drive. All 3 drivers come with such a utility but you need to be paying attention to the size of the partition because depending on the TOS version you will have different limits. This is also important if you connect the same US to more than one STs with different vTOS version. I think Jookie in his page had a comparison of the drivers. I bought both PP's and HDDR because I want to support maintainers to keep doing what they doing. I am pretty sure both have trail versions with limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylaffer Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Also things might get a bit more complicated if you have other devices on the ascsi bus (for example with a mega ste you have the built in hard drive) and you need to make sure that the device ID doesn't clash with another device ID on the same bus... But playing a bit around with the utilities and googling around you should be able to find your way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks guys and thanks Larry, good to know as I plan to use the US with both my Mega STe and 4160 STe, both are currently running 2.06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Some notes: ICD has no TOS/DOS compatible partitioning and support for that, only other 2 mentioned. So, not easy data transfer with some modern computer. Funny thing is that now, so many years later TOS 1.00-1.02 is still interesting and needs support. In big part now because Covid-19 and very slow, sometimes not working international shipping. Additionally EPROM prices went up, so replacing 6 TOS chips in some ST cost pretty much. I never used hard disks with those old TOS versions - first one had in 1992, and then we had already 1.04 and 2.06 - actually later was only good for my IDE disk then. And to mention that I went on DOS compatible partitions very soon. TOS and DOS FAT16 is same under 32 MB, only above it differs. And with those small capacity drives was no need for bigger partitions. One thing more: for those old TOS versions, which support max 256 MB partition size is not enough to set size properly, but it needs to be in 'old TOS' mode. Because logical sector size needs to be double with older TOS versions by same partition size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Another quick question please. Right now ordering from Lotharek's Lair has shipping via USPS @ almost $100!, whereas if I buy if from him on ebay, the shipping is $40. Anyone buy the UltraSatan during the Covid use ebay vs directly from Lotharek? Just concerned that the ebay ship and his webpage ship are so different before buying on ebay. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I saw the crazy shipping prices in his thread where he announced pre-orders for the new SIDE3 cartridge. There seems to be some sort of error with shipping estimates right now. He's looking into it, but I'd definitely wait a little bit to see how things settle out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks, B, do you think it would be OK to go the ebay route? Can't get an email to him or thru ebay, just don't want to look at $100 shipping for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylaffer Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 If shipping is with the Ebay international program I would do it. It is very efficient and the least delay in customs (at least pre-covid19): usual 2-3 days where buying directly from a seller in EU I had a recent experience having my package waiting for a month in the US customs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks, Larry, I think I'll pull the trigger on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Randy said: Thanks, B, do you think it would be OK to go the ebay route? Can't get an email to him or thru ebay, just don't want to look at $100 shipping for this. If it's actually Lotharek selling it through eBay, then yes, I think that would be fine. 33 minutes ago, larrylaffer said: If shipping is with the Ebay international program I would do it. It is very efficient and the least delay in customs (at least pre-covid19): usual 2-3 days where buying directly from a seller in EU I had a recent experience having my package waiting for a month in the US customs... I know that can be true in some instances, but my US, which was order right before everything started going to heck in early March, got held up for three months. I'd paid for Polish Post shipping, and they completely stopped International shipping altogether. Lotharek finally paid the extra himself to ship out all of his orders via FedEx after three months. I finally got mine about a month ago. That being said, once I got the notice that my order had shipped, I had it here in southern Indiana in a week, so there was no holdup whatsoever at customs. Of course, that may have been because so little was making it into the country at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrarkus Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 FedEx from Lotharek took 5 days to US for me, twice in the last 2 months. It’s not cheap, like $40+, but worth it, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Mrarkus said: FedEx from Lotharek took 5 days to US for me, twice in the last 2 months. It’s not cheap, like $40+, but worth it, IMHO. Thanks Mrarkus, that option on Lotharek's site is over $100 whereas the UPS was $80. When I bought it on ebay, UPS is $40. If I had been able to contact him, your info would have been a big help, but he isn't taking any email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 He answers email from his site. Not sure about from eBay. Hopefully, he'll get the crazy pricing showing on his web site fixed soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I went to Lotharek's site and added a cased US, cable, and SD card with the software to my cart and this was the shipping shown to Indiana. It looks like the shipping cost issue has been fixed, at least for now. All three of these are sold separately on Lotharek's web site, so I'm not certain that they come together when you purchase them off of eBay. Something to consider and confirm before purchasing. FedEx starts at $41.10, and they or UPS are the only way to get anything out of Poland at the moment. Another option to check into, Marlin at The Brewing Academy here in the states sells UltraSatans and cables. He shows out of stock at the moment, but you may want to check with him and see when I might have some new ones in. You can reach him here: macrorie@thebrewingacademy.com, or here: MacRorie Edited July 27, 2020 by bfollowell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Thanks B, very helpful! It looks like the UltraSatan is selling like hotcakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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