flashjazzcat Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: I think you missed Jon’s post from this past Friday a page or two back: Thanks Herb. And I'm further behind schedule than expected, owing to miserable unforeseen issues with hardware projects. I also wasn't joking when I said I'm still waiting for my production SIDE3, so I'm still reliant on the uncased board in the 600XL with two CF cards propping the cartridge doors open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Hey, FedEx got its act together and now my delivery is scheduled for today by 8:00pm. Awesome. I guess I need to dig up FJC’s U1MB build and get my 1200XL updated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrVenkman said: I think you missed Jon’s post from this past Friday a page or two back: Yes, I did miss that, will download and flash 1 hour ago, candle said: without upgrading U1MB bios, it will start loader for SIDE2, not SIDE3.. Makes sense, I can see some things only if I disable SDX AND PBI , then it works same as unmodified XE Thanks both for the info Update: Looks like the new Update has not been published yet, latest on web site is still V3.1 Edited October 6, 2020 by TGB1718 Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: Hey, FedEx got its act together and now my delivery is scheduled for today by 8:00pm. Awesome. I guess I need to dig up FJC’s U1MB build and get my 1200XL updated. I take it the build also works in the Incognito? Probably where my SIDE3 will end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Atari 800/400 will require replacing RAS signal with PHI2 signal on their cartridge port to use this cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Well, I’m sure Jon will get his site updated in the next day or two with the latest U1MB build for SIDE3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, candle said: Atari 800/400 will require replacing RAS signal with PHI2 signal on their cartridge port to use this cartridge So SIDE2 in that machine! After having it act wierd for a while, I am less keen to open it up and operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 same story i'm affride but why would anyone want to use side2 with incognito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The CF card in the Incognito gives you everything the SIDE# + U1MB does. Why would you want to use a cart in that machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickJock Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, candle said: Atari 800/400 will require replacing RAS signal with PHI2 signal on their cartridge port to use this cartridge That seems like the sort of thing that should be disclosed on the product page so that people can make an informed decision prior to purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, Stephen said: The CF card in the Incognito gives you everything the SIDE# + U1MB does. Why would you want to use a cart in that machine? Oh yeah, what the hell was I thinking of? Forgetting shit in my old age. ? I actually wanted it for one of my 1200xls, but need a U1MB in there. I am going to blame it on the PC4, trying to get that thing to behave has been a pain in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, StickJock said: That seems like the sort of thing that should be disclosed on the product page so that people can make an informed decision prior to purchase. this is general truth regarding all modern cartridges that do more than enabling a single bank of rom/flash/ram and i belive it's common knowledge i'm sure one could find numerous references addressing that "issue" besides, you won't close the trapdoor with side3/side2 or any other cartridge of that form factor - this is also common knowledge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrock Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, flashjazzcat said: uncased board in the 600XL with two CF cards propping the cartridge doors open. CF Cards? You were lucky. We used to have to use damp paper towels with electrodes attached to our nipples so we'd share the shock when it shorted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, fenrock said: We used to have to use damp paper towels with electrodes attached to our nipples so we'd share the shock when it shorted. That sounds like pure luxury compared to the day I'm having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 OK: with luck I should be back on track and able to work on the U1MB firmware update this evening now that the Atari desk doesn't have bits of 800XE all over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Cool. Gotta go dig up an SD card now ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, flashjazzcat said: OK: with luck I should be back on track and able to work on the U1MB firmware update this evening now that the Atari desk doesn't have bits of 800XE all over it. Did you murder an 800XE and just dispose of the evidence? (Wonder how much plastic wrap FJC uses for his murder room). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, leech said: Did you murder an 800XE and just dispose of the evidence? I considered disposing of the body, but fortunately noticed just in time that it was still breathing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I got my Side 3 today and put some standard roms in the Fat. Cart's play as normal. The only complaint is the BRIGHT green LED... I might have to put a black label over the LED window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 My only real complaint is the same as with the previous SIDE2 - the shell is about a millimeter (*) too wide to fit into the 1200XL cartridge tunnel. I get that 1200XL's are rarer than hen's teeth in Europe, but it's still annoying. Fortunately, I long ago filed the sides of the tunnel of my Ugly Duckling 1200XL to fit the SIDE2, so the width of the SIDE3 isn't a show-stopper. *Estimate - I didn't break out the calipers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: *Estimate - I didn't break out the calipers! And you call yourself a scientist!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, toddtmw said: And you call yourself a scientist!? Some measurements call for a micrometer; some for a yardstick. EDIT: But just to be clear, I do have calipers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, toddtmw said: And you call yourself a scientist!? Missed opportunity for saying "back off man, I'm a scientist" I should watch that again... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, DrVenkman said: My only real complaint is the same as with the previous SIDE2 - the shell is about a millimeter (*) too wide to fit into the 1200XL cartridge tunnel. I get that 1200XL's are rarer than hen's teeth in Europe, but it's still annoying. Fortunately, I long ago filed the sides of the tunnel of my Ugly Duckling 1200XL to fit the SIDE2, so the width of the SIDE3 isn't a show-stopper. *Estimate - I didn't break out the calipers! heh, i was assured this was adressed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 10:35 AM, flashjazzcat said: Primarily cartridge emulation, all handled from the loader you're used to using (the SIDE loader). In your case - with U1MB present - you can mount cartridges (ROM and CAR files stored in the FAT on the SD card), ATR disk images, and APT HDD partitions and use them all at the same time. It's currently the only solution which integrates cartridge emulation with the existing U1MB/SIDE 'ecosystem'. Other than that, the SIDE3 Loader does away with the 'paging' of large FAT directories with more than 250 files; it will load up to 1,000 filenames per directory into RAM all in one go. Likewise, you can have up to 1,000 results from a recursive search. There's also 2MB of cartridge SRAM and DMA, which I'm sure can be exploited for lots of novel purposes other than cartridge image loading. I have further plans for the loader going forward, including auto-mount cartridges and built-in media playback facilities. Thanks for the thorough explanation and sorry for the late thanks, Jonathan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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