+MrFish Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheNameOfTheGame said: A full refund after showing us you got hundreds of dollars of value from the hardware? Not cool. I can see your point of view. On the other hand, I haven't much sympathy for sellers who take little to no care when packing items that have been paid for with my hard-earned dollars. Much serviceable retro equipment has met an untimely death by way of shipping fiascos similar to this. I've seen them posted about on these forums year after year, and have personally been subject to a few myself. Large companies are guilty of the same too: trying to save a few bucks by using smaller box sizes and paltry amounts of packing material. I received two such similar items in the last week (for food and electronics gear), and netted $60 for the errors; from which I have ZERO guilt. Edited April 22, 2021 by MrFish 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickJock Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Faicuai said: The good news is that you can use that smashed out piece to make a patch for the hole in the back! oh, wait.... ? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, StickJock said: The good news is that you can use that smashed out piece to make a patch for the hole in the back! oh, wait.... ? ? There's nothing we can do for that goose, trust me... it's sooooo gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Faicuai said: There's nothing we can do for that goose, trust me... it's sooooo gone... You can always turn it into one of these: 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 Some other findings you may find interesting: 1. OS ROM board... bizarre cocktail of manufacturing dates: 2. 16KB RAM board with chips made by SHARP (?) Never seen these before... Again, bizarre (old) dates for the unit, since it wqs supposed to be an '81: 3. Up-close on the Axlom RAMCRAM (with its chubby DRAM chips) I womder if this would also work in Slot-1, though: : 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MrFish said: You can always turn it into one of these: Of course (GREAT idea...)... (Edit: Whoa! That looks and smells like an Apple-I... and an Apple iPod to boot! ??) It is just I already had one, built out of necessity (for testing and troubleshooting before plugging unknown stuff into immaculate production units)... I had just found out that Side2 WORKED on my unmodified RAS-signaled L-Cart port of my test bed, and I still DO NOT understand why or how.. Edited April 22, 2021 by Faicuai 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Very glad to hear the Bit3 and RAMCRAM went to someone who will fully appreciate it. Congrats on the find! The pattern seems to be that the case always takes the brunt of the breakage but the other parts survive. At present have no need of any of the parts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaki Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Faicuai said: The nice part of this is that I *never* asked for a refund... As soon as I explained the vendor what happened, and sent him the pictures, he was professional enough to immediately offer me a full refund. He actually had the shipment insured, and claimed it at the carrier. That's cool of him, but like MrFish said, it sucks that he couldn't just pack it properly in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sugarland said: Very glad to hear the Bit3 and RAMCRAM went to someone who will fully appreciate it Always glad to hear wisdom around these parts... ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) On 4/21/2021 at 10:25 PM, Faicuai said: Axlom RAMCRAM (with its chubby DRAM chips) I womder if this would also work in Slot-1, though: Not without a simple mod. Cut the connection between edge pins M and 18, being careful to retain the connection between edge pin 18 and IC L2 pin 9. Then connect edge pins M and T. Then it will work in slot 1 with a 16K board (or an Axlon 128K board) in slot 2. Edited April 23, 2021 by ClausB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 1:36 AM, Faicuai said: Very good, indeed... PM-me... Ack.....I wish I'd seen this before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mclaneinc said: Ack.....I wish I'd seen this before You are still on time, sire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 10:25 PM, Faicuai said: 2. 16KB RAM board with chips made by SHARP (?) Never seen these before... Again, bizarre (old) dates for the unit, since it wqs supposed to be an '81: 3. Up-close on the Axlom RAMCRAM (with its chubby DRAM chips) I womder if this would also work in Slot-1, though: : 300ns RAM on the 16K board? Is that a performance or stability issue? The RAMCRAM has 200ns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sugarland said: 300ns RAM on the 16K board? Good catch !!! You are seeing them untouched, as I opened them. I fired them up, ran some timing-oriented tests, they seems to work fine... The RAMCRAM appears very well built, like old-school quality, except for a couple of minor details... Edited April 23, 2021 by Faicuai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ClausB said: Cut the connection between edge pins M and 18, being careful to retain the connection between edge pin 18 and IC L2 pin 9. Then connect edge pins M and T. Then it will work in slot 1 with a 16K board (or an Axlon 128K board) in slot 2. Wait. That will work with a 16K board in slot 2, but not an Axlon 128K board. Here's that mod: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 @Faicuai I found a source for new Bit 3 cards. Price is $179.00. They also have new 800's for $69.99 and 400's for $29.99. Toll-free 1 800 233-8950 Be sure to ask about those Indus drives, too! 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) On 4/21/2021 at 9:08 AM, Faicuai said: Few days ago I was cruising on my regular mid-night eBay patrol. when out of the blues I stumble across this neglected, crap-looking puppy: To my dismay, I also find a grotesque hole in the back, like it has been literally shot point-blank just to get it done... And then..... Can you guys *** SEE *** what is coming out of that shit-hole? Did anyone here bid on this poor, neglected baby? ??? (Hint: Jackpot !!) So that's pre and post shipping? My Gawd, that's bullshit. Edited April 24, 2021 by Mazzspeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 3:11 AM, MrFish said: I can see your point of view. On the other hand, I haven't much sympathy for sellers who take little to no care when packing items that have been paid for with my hard-earned dollars. Much serviceable retro equipment has met an untimely death by way of shipping fiascos similar to this. I've seen them posted about on these forums year after year, and have personally been subject to a few myself. Exactly. Plus it's probably paid by insurance anyway. I have had two instances of stuff shipped across the Atlantic wrapped in half a weekday newspaper and arriving unserviceable and in one case way beyond repair. One less 400 shell in the world due to total stupidity on behalf of the seller. While i can't deny envy for @Faicuai's find he probably had to look at a lot of bog standard 800 pictures before finding one with innards as beautiful as this and everyone could have taken the time and found it. I don't "crave" for a Bit3 and doubt I would have much use for it as I prefer programming in WUDSN and AFAIK there is no 80-column Action!, but having one would somehow fulfill the promise of expandability those slots within the 800 projected whenever I opened the top cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, slx said: I don't "crave" for a Bit3 and doubt I would have much use for it as I prefer programming in WUDSN and AFAIK there is no 80-column Action!, but having one would somehow fulfill the promise of expandability those slots within the 800 projected whenever I opened the top cover. I wouldn't mind having a Bit 3 myself; but I also have no great desire for one. I actually was bidding against @Faicuai on the first Bit 3 he got; but I bailed out once it got beyond what I wanted to spend at the time. The items in the auction were worth well beyond the bidding at that point; but it didn't matter to me, because I had no desire to spend time reselling the other items that I didn't want (I forget what other hardware was in the auction). I too like the idea of sporting one in an 800, but I'm quite sure I'd use it but little in the long run. So, better they go to people that might end up putting them to better use. At this point, I'd actually be happier with an XEP80, in spite of it's loathed status among most Atari users. At this point, I think they're as rare as, or more rare than, a Bit 3, though. So, my chances of ending up with one are just about good as getting a Bit 3, or an Austin Franklin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Mazzspeed said: So that's pre and post shipping? My Gawd, that's bullshit. You mean the pic. sequence?? Those two are AUCTION pictures, in the order I reviewed them. Post-shipping have been posted already, on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Sugarland said: @Faicuai I found a source for new Bit 3 cards. Price is $179.00. They also have new 800's for $69.99 and 400's for $29.99. Toll-free 1 800 233-8950 Be sure to ask about those Indus drives, too! ?? NICE find !!!!! Are those Canadian or US prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 4 hours ago, MrFish said: At this point, I'd actually be happier with an XEP80, in spite of it's loathed status among most Atari users Don't even pay attention to that mythical status. It works GREAT, on SDX, thanks to Avery's ultra drivers. I use it EVERY single day, on dual LCD-setup. GO for it! The Bit3 is a wonderful example of how to exploit the 800's architectural upper-hand, right since EONS ago!! Enjoy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 My 800 desperately needs that metal door shielding...I'll pm you too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 WoOoW !! Found this one recently: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154467378883?nma=true&si=MUwNEGoxK0wftjC6KIQoiUiQj%2Fc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Did anyone here bid on this auction? For those who are paying attention to detail, this is one seemed special, too.... ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarland Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Faicuai said: WoOoW !! Found this one recently: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154467378883?nma=true&si=MUwNEGoxK0wftjC6KIQoiUiQj%2Fc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Did anyone here bid on this auction? For those who are paying attention to detail, this is one seemed special, too.... ?? Yeah saw it. Knew it was a very rare and sought after item. The VoiceBox II... Was not able to bid. Congrats to whomever got it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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