0078265317 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 https://www.denofgeek.com/games/hardest-nes-games-ever/?amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynicaster Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Why did I have a feeling Punch Out would be on this list... The game definitely takes some practice and perseverence to beat but it ain't that damn hard. I mean, aren't there people on Youtube beating the game blindfolded? Top 15 hardest on the system? C'maaaan.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonSpaceBeagle Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 they are ALL hard (for me anyway) and it was always so frustrating to pay 50 bux (in 80s and 90s dollars no less) never to get beyond level 1. thankfully there was the game genie for people like myself. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Clae Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 No way do Castlevania and Mega Man belong on here. I beat that as a kid. The article doesn't mention that Ninja Gaiden 3 was ruined for the US release. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonSpaceBeagle Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I actually got decently far in Castlevania.. So yeah, definitely shouldn't be on the list. Mega Man 1 i remember having a hard time with, I was a lot better at the second one. That shouldn't be on the list either. Really though, most of these bloggers don't know their asses from their elbows about video games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 8 hours ago, DJ Clae said: No way do Castlevania and Mega Man belong on here. I beat that as a kid. The article doesn't mention that Ninja Gaiden 3 was ruined for the US release. I've got to agree with this. The rest of the list is pretty legit. Castlevania III isn't as hard as the first one so that's a nonsense attention grabber, NG3 is screwed from the FC(or NGT SNES) release, and Mega Man had no password but it was shorter and in ways less difficult than some of the later NES releases, and didn't it allow continues? Final Fantasy is also a bs listing. It's like a 1/32 chance of you get Warmech on the way to Tiamat, my god awful luck the one time I finished it in the day on NES I did get that prick...and beat him, and Tiamat after as I was too worked up to walk back out but it was close...too close. It doesn't belong there as you can just power level into a sheer bored stupor with that one. Honestly I'm a little surprised that Faxanadu isn't on there, password or not, if you didn't get a start with most your stuff cheat code and play it natural, it's nasty...really nasty yet fair. I've always owned it, finished in the era too, but not since. I will give credit for them not trying to put troll garbage of horrid design that is hard because it's coded like crap such as some LJN dumpster fires. I would definitely, despite leveling, and I'm very shocked not seeing it, would throw Dragon Warrior II under the bus for the hardest list. The game has a broken design in the code where as you level up, the enemies and bosses tier up too, so the more you play, the uglier it gets, grinding causes pain, but grinding gets the gear you must have to survive. Worse, there is a spot in the game where you cross water, if you do it unknowingly too early, you're really screwed as the tiering will crush your soul wanting to commit to further abuse. Even Enix admits they fouled up, they repaired the game in the SFC then GBC remasters of the old title giving it normal progression which all updates since are also based off of. Also Punchout, it is NOT hard...challenging in the last tier of fighters somewhat, it's Tyson/Dream alone that are an utter timing nightmare. You can thoroughly enjoy and beat that game up until that last fight, even on a cheap quality modern LCD with some poor processing that'll put an over 30ms and up display lag. I'd toss that out, and really, not to really throw more love at the franchise, put Gargoyle's Quest II in there as it's even harder than the anything but easy Gameboy original. That game leaves little to no room for error. Kind of tempted to even throw the eggplant wizard under the bus on Kid Icarus, that jerk alone made that game utterly insufferable with the dungeons every 4th stage but as he's a soul annoyance, it's an honorable mention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Wow pretty much a list of nes games I've actually beaten or games I've beaten on a harder system, like an amstrad. Feel like this article has a "modern lens" with punch out, mega man 1, final fantasy among others. Jeez. And really, gauntlet and games like ikari warriors? There is definitely worse nes games for difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 11:41 AM, NeonSpaceBeagle said: they are ALL hard (for me anyway) and it was always so frustrating to pay 50 bux (in 80s and 90s dollars no less) never to get beyond level 1. thankfully there was the game genie for people like myself. me too. loved Game Genie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomaios Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mikebloke said: Wow pretty much a list of nes games I've actually beaten or games I've beaten on a harder system, like an amstrad. Feel like this article has a "modern lens" with punch out, mega man 1, final fantasy among others. Jeez. And really, gauntlet and games like ikari warriors? There is definitely worse nes games for difficulty. These sort of lists are always going to highlight the most difficult of the popular games, otherwise it would be made up of a bunch of broken crap. I always treat these as "15 very difficult yet popular games," and a couple are questionable. In fact, it's questionable whether the author (Edit: in general, not singling out this person) actually played many or any of the games in question. Edited July 4, 2021 by Rhomaios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I'd question that given some of the choices, but also just because they're hard doesn't necessarily mean we find them as hard anymore since we learned the games so it's being looked at poorly. Looking at all the watered down stuff a majority of games have now, even a fairly challenging but not 'hard' game would seem like a real pain to someone who started out at a minimum with a PS2 and didn't have some older kid with old systems lying about to tangle with. It's why I called out a few, but mentioned in some detail some that can be pretty nasty that failed to make the cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I have never actually played Silver Surfer, but that hit box is huge. I think Star Soldier would be the hardest NES game I have ever played. I have never beat Tyson, but I am sure I could with more practice. By the time I get to him I am worn out of the game. I wonder how many of the games I learned to beat as a kid had greater difficulty than I remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Anybody tried Dragon's Lair for the NES? It's just damn near impossible! It was a great idea (To have a Dragon's Lair themed side scroller) so poorly executed that I wished I never bought it. Then again I got too frustrated to try it out for very long... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidD Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 The main problem with Kid Icarus is that the first level is very, VERY difficult, and an awful introduction to the game. Once you level up a bit and get past the first stage, the rest of the game is much more playable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Rhomaios said: These sort of lists are always going to highlight the most difficult of the popular games, otherwise it would be made up of a bunch of broken crap. I always treat these as "15 very difficult yet popular games," and a couple are questionable. In fact, it's questionable whether the author (Edit: in general, not singling out this person) actually played many or any of the games in question. Yes I happened to then cross another article for another system (think it was ps2 games) from the same author, seems to be a nostalgia / popular hit piece, wasn't particularly impressed by that one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, DavidD said: The main problem with Kid Icarus is that the first level is very, VERY difficult, and an awful introduction to the game. Once you level up a bit and get past the first stage, the rest of the game is much more playable. Really? I never found it nastier than the rest, other than the smaller life bar, but that dickish eggplant magic was just overkill having no heals other than being a walking punching bag back to the nurse. It took it too far doing that and even Nintendo knew it as they time lapsed it on GB for the direct sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidD Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Tanooki said: Really? I never found it nastier than the rest, other than the smaller life bar, but that dickish eggplant magic was just overkill having no heals other than being a walking punching bag back to the nurse. It took it too far doing that and even Nintendo knew it as they time lapsed it on GB for the direct sequel. It might be a combination of it being the introduction to the game, forced vertical scrolling, and a tiny amount of life -- once I'm past the first level, the rest of the game seems far more evenly balanced. The first level starts you off with very little health and lots of ways to die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I didn’t think Kid Icarus was too bad past the first level either. I finished that without too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Where I am with it, the game progressively but in a fair way gets harder in the vertical stages. The dungeons are mostly not worse, the bosses are a challenge but a pattern so not disgusting or unfair. But, the eggplant wizard alone makes me take very VERY long breaks before making real attempts at playing the game and not just giving in and using the 8uuuuuuuuuu code to just do the last stage. The amount of times I stopped playing that game for months or more at a time back int he day before finally finishing it, legit, just once, was that one prick. They should have had antidote, any life pool, or better yet as I said, a time limit, like 30-60sec being cursed. But having it permanent without a nurse and if I recall taking extra damage being a squishy veggy was just crap. It made a challenging but fair game, painfully aggravating and demoralizing to continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Ghosts 'n Goblins Dragon's Lair Silver Surfer Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Battletoads Ninja Gaiden Back to the Future II & III Die Hard Deadly Towers Spelunker Mission: Impossible Bill & Ted's Excellent Video Game Adventure Bram Stoker's Dracula Ghostbusters Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Adventure Island is harder than most of the entries on the list. See also Star Force, Qbert, Arkanoid, etc. Another list where it's actually "hardest games that are well known/popular or had been covered by AVGN." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C. Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 9:48 PM, electricmastro said: Back to the Future II & III So did you beat the original? One day I made myself sit down until I finally beat that damn game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Most NES games are hard as nails guys, c'mon. We grew up with that difficulty, we have a different outlook. When I try to play some of that stuff now, I'm like how the hell did I make it through this? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Cobra Kai said: Most NES games are hard as nails guys, c'mon. We grew up with that difficulty, we have a different outlook. When I try to play some of that stuff now, I'm like how the hell did I make it through this? Now? I was like that then! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 11:08 PM, Joe C. said: So did you beat the original? One day I made myself sit down until I finally beat that damn game. My step-brother had the original when we were kids and I played it quite a bit. I could never get very far though. It is one of those games I need to finally beat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 3:39 PM, Cobra Kai said: Most NES games are hard as nails guys, c'mon. We grew up with that difficulty, we have a different outlook. When I try to play some of that stuff now, I'm like how the hell did I make it through this? Speaking of which, I might as well mention what are probably the easiest NES games: Taboo: The Sixth Sense Sesame Street: 123 Fisher-Price: Perfect Fit Fisher-Price: Firehouse Rescue Sesame Street: ABC Fisher-Price: I Can Remember Sesame Street: Countdown Color a Dinosaur Sesame Street: ABC & 123 Sesame Street: Big Bird's Hide & Speak Mickey's Safari in Letterland Donkey Kong Jr. Math Mickey's Adventure in Numberland Tiny Toon Adventures: Cartoon Workshop Mario Is Missing! Videomation Magic Darts Hollywood Squares Rollerblade Racer Mario's Time Machine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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