leech Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 It has been a long time since I played this, but am pretty sure it only runs in ST Low. Would love to see a patch for it that allows for any 16 color resolution. Playing it on my SuperVidel at 1280x720 would be sweet! The only problem I ever saw with this release was the size of the window. The graphics are otherwise spot on! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 You can not make some game to work in higher resolution with some 'patch'. That's much more complex, and in fact needs rewriting almost complete code, redesign graphic, sprites, maps, etc. Maybe to look for some newer release for PC ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, leech said: It has been a long time since I played this, but am pretty sure it only runs in ST Low. Would love to see a patch for it that allows for any 16 color resolution. Playing it on my SuperVidel at 1280x720 would be sweet! The only problem I ever saw with this release was the size of the window. The graphics are otherwise spot on! Like this? Edited February 23, 2022 by prog99 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, prog99 said: Like this? Yes! What settings did you use? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, leech said: Yes! What settings did you use? As its gem based I just turned on extended gem vdi in hatari(buggy). Seems Rogues resolution & colour depth check is perhaps not 100% Wouldn't take much to remove it and the game seems happy with the bigger screen other than the title picture being sized for 320x200 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 hours ago, prog99 said: As its gem based I just turned on extended gem vdi in hatari(buggy). Seems Rogues resolution & colour depth check is perhaps not 100% Wouldn't take much to remove it and the game seems happy with the bigger screen other than the title picture being sized for 320x200 I was thinking it was "Fake" GEM, like the Phantasie and Ultima games (2 & 3?) were. I'll have to try it out! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 hours ago, leech said: I was thinking it was "Fake" GEM, like the Phantasie and Ultima games (2 & 3?) were. I'll have to try it out! Its been 30 years since I last did this but I patched out the resolution check however when I try it on an emulated 16 colour falcon the colours are messed up. I've attached the patched binary anyway. TEST.PRG Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Emulated tt looks ok (need to disable the cache) 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, prog99 said: Its been 30 years since I last did this but I patched out the resolution check however when I try it on an emulated 16 colour falcon the colours are messed up. I've attached the patched binary anyway. TEST.PRG 130.99 kB · 1 download Huh, my guess is the color space is defined differently? But this is awesome, I figured it wouldn't be too terrible to do. I should try it out on my real TT and Falcon. With the control panel, I would think duplicating the palette would be feasible. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, leech said: Huh, my guess is the color space is defined differently? But this is awesome, I figured it wouldn't be too terrible to do. I should try it out on my real TT and Falcon. With the control panel, I would think duplicating the palette would be feasible. I know where its changing the palette, might have another quick debugging session later 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5010929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 There's also a GEM version of NetHack which uses higher resolutions at 16 colors, but you'll have to emulate a 68030 machine with 4 megs of RAM. http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-atari.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5011078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, MrMaddog said: There's also a GEM version of NetHack which uses higher resolutions at 16 colors, but you'll have to emulate a 68030 machine with 4 megs of RAM. http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-atari.html Very nice! I vaguely remember there being a nethack! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5011085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, leech said: Very nice! I vaguely remember there being a nethack! I remember seeing something about it in ST Format. Even more amazing is that the official version of Nethack uses the same graphics tiles as the ST version of Rogue. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5011173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrMaddog said: I remember seeing something about it in ST Format. Even more amazing is that the official version of Nethack uses the same graphics tiles as the ST version of Rogue. Yeah, sadly the developers stopped supporting Atari builds a few years back. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5011179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Need to patch the call to https://freemint.github.io/tos.hyp/en/Screen_functions.html#Setpalette with https://freemint.github.io/tos.hyp/en/Screen_functions.html#EsetPalette for falcon but it would need a bit of work as the latter has more parameters than the former. Might be easier to set the palette manually if your determined to play it or write a wrapper that does it for you. Anyway it was fun to delve into the code and discover how easy it is to do with the steem debugger. Edited February 25, 2022 by prog99 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5011350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 6:25 PM, leech said: Yeah, sadly the developers stopped supporting Atari builds a few years back. That's ok, Atari also stopped supporting computers years ago too... ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5017988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, MrMaddog said: That's ok, Atari also stopped supporting computers years ago too... ? Ouch! This is true! On 2/24/2022 at 3:25 AM, prog99 said: Its been 30 years since I last did this but I patched out the resolution check however when I try it on an emulated 16 colour falcon the colours are messed up. I've attached the patched binary anyway. TEST.PRG 130.99 kB · 4 downloads I have tested this TEST.PRG file a few times in Hatari, but it just prompts for a name then crashes... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5018013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 hours ago, leech said: Ouch! This is true! I have tested this TEST.PRG file a few times in Hatari, but it just prompts for a name then crashes... Did you run it standalone? It'll crash unless the "stuff" folder is in the same directory. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5018195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, leech said: Ouch! This is true! I have tested this TEST.PRG file a few times in Hatari, but it just prompts for a name then crashes... Ah, it doesn't like 14meg of ram either(sometimes). I think its a hatari thing with the random crashes tbh. Have you tried on TT mode? Edited March 9, 2022 by prog99 I was babbling nonsense. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5018198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 1:36 AM, prog99 said: Did you run it standalone? It'll crash unless the "stuff" folder is in the same directory. Death by Kestrel! outside of the intro and death, everything looks awesome. Do love Rogue, thanks for the tweak! I should try it on real hardware one of these days. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5020691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 11 hours ago, leech said: Death by Kestrel! outside of the intro and death, everything looks awesome. Do love Rogue, thanks for the tweak! I should try it on real hardware one of these days. Is there a manual anywhere? I quite enjoyed testing it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5020923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, prog99 said: Is there a manual anywhere? I quite enjoyed testing it. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st-rogue_10438.html looks like it has scanned images. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5020953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 I have noticed that while the windo fills up the full screen, the actual contents of the game don't seem to go outside of one quadrant. Nethack works, but it is missing some nice graphical enhancements, like the hitpoint / armor / etc bars. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5021511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prog99 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, leech said: I have noticed that while the windo fills up the full screen, the actual contents of the game don't seem to go outside of one quadrant. Nethack works, but it is missing some nice graphical enhancements, like the hitpoint / armor / etc bars. Looks ok or am I missing something? Edited March 14, 2022 by prog99 Attempting and failing to remove the 2nd image Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/331723-rogue-epyx-configurable-resolution-hack/#findComment-5021644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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