Option key doesn't function with fujinet.

[chevymad]

I'm not sure where my problem is. On my 1088XLD the option key won't boot a program with fujinet. However, using the XL keyboard test, option key functions.  My XEL is down at the moment.. so I'll have to set up a different atari to see if the fujinet functions. 

[chevymad]

Ok, fujinet works fine on 800xl and 400.  Just discovered my 800xl won't access the U1MB menu either. Otherwise it seems to work ok as well. 

[Gavin1968]

Yes it has to be the computer, the FujiNet would not prevent the option key from working.  Something else is going on with that computer.  Sorry, I have no idea what, but there is a problem with something.   

[chevymad]

My memory is crap. I might have asked about this before. Seems like Mytek suggested a problem with the gtia. Which at the time I'd forgotten I have a sophia installed. I need to pull this apart and reseat at the least. 

[+mytek]

Ok here begs the question. Does the Option key work for things other than FujiNet? So for instance have you verified operation in the keyboard self-test?

 

[chevymad]

Yes it does work with self test. 

[_The Doctor__]

When in self test, keyboard... press down option select and start at the same time... do they all show as being held together?

while still pressing all three press a key at the same time... and the same again and add shift to the mix...

what do you observe?

[+mytek]

2 hours ago, chevymad said:

Yes it does work with self test. 

Then I suspect it's the same or similar issue I had to address in the 576NUC+ with it's FujiNet daughter board. It's related to the TK-II which of course is the only keyboard input on an XEL, XLD, NUC. When I get a chance I'll look into it, but I'll warn you it could be a couple of weeks.

 

[chevymad]

It did work fine at first, then got iffy.. finally quit working at all. 

 

[chevymad]

3 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said:

When in self test, keyboard... press down option select and start at the same time... do they all show as being held together?

while still pressing all three press a key at the same time... and the same again and add shift to the mix...

what do you observe?

Seems to all work. They will flash really quick as you add another key. 

[+mytek]

I can jury rig a NUC/FujiNet board on my XLD to test this, since I don't have an official one with the SIO plug. Just have to get in the mood to do this. If someone else already has the means to simply plug in a FujiNet on a 1088XLD to check this, that would be great.

 

[+Stephen]

16 minutes ago, mytek said:

I can jury rig a NUC/FujiNet board on my XLD to test this, since I don't have an official one with the SIO plug. Just have to get in the mood to do this. If someone else already has the means to simply plug in a FujiNet on a 1088XLD to check this, that would be great.

 

I can do this later this evening.  Reply may be late - I have to finish up work and do an oil change on my car so I can work on my truck this weekend (vehicle shit never ends).

[chevymad]

OK, had some time to open her up and try a couple things tonight. It appears to be a problem with my sophia2. If I replace the sophia with a standard gtia, everything works as it should. I put sophia back in the machine and again option won't work to boot the fujinet. 

[+mytek]

19 hours ago, chevymad said:

OK, had some time to open her up and try a couple things tonight. It appears to be a problem with my sophia2. If I replace the sophia with a standard gtia, everything works as it should. I put sophia back in the machine and again option won't work to boot the fujinet. 

That's interesting. I wonder what's happening with the Sophia OPTION key input that only shows up as a problem with FujiNet (timing?).

 

[+Stephen]

My 1088 is working fine - I have a PAL GTIA in it.  The FujiNet I am using is the initial 576NUC one, without cart port.  I am using my own adapter to connect to SIO, but that is not a factor.

[chevymad]

Beings it used to work, would a reflash be worth a try? And if so is the firmware available somewhere? 

[chevymad]

For kicks I installed the sophia into my U1mb 800xl tonight. This was an adventure in itself. Not so much the sophia install, but for some reason this machine wouldn't go into the u1mb menu. It otherwise seemed to function fine. Since I couldn't get into Spartados, I pulled the amic chip and reprogrammed with my minipro. Now it all functions like it should again. This is one of the original black Candle boards. 

 

Anyway, back to the pertinant info to this thread. The Fujinet functions fine with sophia2 and u1mb in the 800xl. So it's something with my XLD machine making the fujinet not boot with option pressed.

[chevymad]

Decided to permanently install the sophia in the 800xl. Maybe when sophia's are available again, i'll try one in the XLD again. 

[+mytek]

@chevymad it could be an issue with the TK-II aspect in the 1088XLD, although perhaps it's an edge case since @Stephen's appears to work properly. Really weird though because I believe you used the Self Test to verify that the Option key was working (Yes/No ??).

 

I know in the 576NUC+ which also uses a TK-II variant it was necessary to do some special handling of the Option key so that the FujiNet daughter board would properly work. However that was mainly to do with the fact that the TK-II was also performing other system chores such as XRAM mode & OS ROM selection, as well as automatic Basic disable dependent upon which start-up hot key sequence was in play. None of these apply to the XLD.

 

[chevymad]

Yes, Option key does work in self test and other software. It's also strange because it used to work fine but slowly started working less and less til not at all. Anyway, the XLD appears to work fine with a standard gtia, and the 800xl works fine with the sophia, so it's all good at the moment.