+therealbountybob Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) SHOOTERS At some point next week the Summer of Fun round will end and we'll be back on regular rounds so here's the next poll for your delectation! Multi-pick poll, we'll play the top two perhaps Aquatron https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1217 Drop Zone https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1734 Fatum https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1917 Guard https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1997 Vanguard https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=3374 Beam Rider https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1398 Repton https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=2745 RoundAbout https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=2764 Threshold has artifacting / think colour version also avaiable! https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=4444 Edited July 29, 2022 by therealbountybob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Lots of choices! For those who go by numbers, here are what I could find from Atarimania and HSC all-time records: Aquatron: 7.8 (25 votes) - HSC S10-R16 (9 years ago) Beamrider: 7.5 (54 votes) - HSC S8-R16, S12-R14 (7 years ago) Blue Max 2001: 4.4 (55 votes) - not played? Dropzone: 8.8 (1923 votes) - HSC S1-R13, S4-R13, S9-R1 (10 years ago) Fatum: 5.8 (8 votes) - HSC S9-R5 (10 years ago) Guard: 6.7 (6 votes) - HSC S9-R5 (10 years ago) Repton: 7.3 (20 votes) - not played? Round About: 7.0 (10 votes) - HSC S8-R16 (11 years ago) Threshold: 7.8 (36 votes) - HSC S8-R14, S15-R16 (4 years ago) Vanguard: 8.0 (143 votes) - HSC S11-R22 (8 years ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 16 hours ago, carlsson said: Lots of choices! For those who go by numbers, here are what I could find from Atarimania and HSC all-time records: Aquatron: 7.8 (25 votes) - HSC S10-R16 (9 years ago) Beamrider: 7.5 (54 votes) - HSC S8-R16, S12-R14 (7 years ago) Blue Max 2001: 4.4 (55 votes) - not played? Dropzone: 8.8 (1923 votes) - HSC S1-R13, S4-R13, S9-R1 (10 years ago) Fatum: 5.8 (8 votes) - HSC S9-R5 (10 years ago) Guard: 6.7 (6 votes) - HSC S9-R5 (10 years ago) Repton: 7.3 (20 votes) - not played? Round About: 7.0 (10 votes) - HSC S8-R16 (11 years ago) Threshold: 7.8 (36 votes) - HSC S8-R14, S15-R16 (4 years ago) Vanguard: 8.0 (143 votes) - HSC S11-R22 (8 years ago) In the HSC ratings: FATUM (Graphics:9 Sound:8 Playability:8 HSCR *7*) therealbountybob : 8407 [9-5] GUARD (Graphics:10 Sound:8 Playability:9 HSCR *8*) therealbountybob : 5372 [9-5] Both good games as are all the picks with Repton being the unknown one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BIT 1337 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 15 hours ago, carlsson said: Blue Max 2001: 4.4 (55 votes) - not played? I'm sure I've played this (and I'm sure I like the original more), but why does this one get spit on so much? My memory is that it's just more of the same really, other than it scrolls in a different direction. Is it really 4.4 bad? I almost voted for it but ultimately didn't simply because we had already played Blue Max so it felt like playing a game we'd already played. I'll play it anyway just to see but I'm curious what the HSC community thinks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BIT 1337 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, therealbountybob said: Both good games as are all the picks with Repton being the unknown one! Had I known that I would have voted for it as well. So if it comes down to the end and it's close you can +1 it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, 8BIT 1337 said: Had I known that I would have voted for it as well. So if it comes down to the end and it's close you can +1 it It being Repton?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 Balls I missed Blue Max 2001 off the poll -will have it later in the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) What was the horizontal scroller we played a few years ago, where the bosses are big insects? That was good Edit: I was thinking of Robix Edited July 29, 2022 by McKong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Heh, I didn't even spot that Blue Max 2001 was mentioned among the choices but not possible to vote for! According to the all-time list, Robix was played in season 5, which would be roughly 14 years ago (2008) unless it has been played again more recently but not updated. I joined the HSC in January 2017 and haven't played it yet, so at least 6 years ago if it was replayed more recently. Of course in a broader Atari scale, 14 years is just about only a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, 8BIT 1337 said: Is it really 4.4 bad? It would seem that people across the world are quite consistent: Blue Max Atarimania A8: 7.8/10 Lemon C64: 8.2/10 Old (1983-85) magazines: 8.17/10 Blue Max 2001 Atarimania A8: 4.4/10 Lemon C64: 4.6/10 Old magazines: 4.0/10 Mobygames critics: 2.5/10 Words like "bleurgh", "anemic", "worst sequel ever", "impossible controls" and "too difficult" are frequently mentioned about BM 2001. Many say that just as good as the original game was, equally unplayable is this one. Perhaps we should have it as a bonus game anyway, just to give it a fair judgement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, carlsson said: It would seem that people across the world are quite consistent: Blue Max Atarimania A8: 7.8/10 Lemon C64: 8.2/10 Old (1983-85) magazines: 8.17/10 Blue Max 2001 Atarimania A8: 4.4/10 Lemon C64: 4.6/10 Old magazines: 4.0/10 Mobygames critics: 2.5/10 Words like "bleurgh", "anemic", "worst sequel ever", "impossible controls" and "too difficult" are frequently mentioned about BM 2001. Many say that just as good as the original game was, equally unplayable is this one. Perhaps we should have it as a bonus game anyway, just to give it a fair judgement? again they don't know what they're on about, it plays well but it's been a long time. Probably at least a 7/10 game, will have it in a future poll "games new to the HSC along with Repton if it doesn't make the cut. Probably hammered it as it's not as good as the original but hey that is a tall ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, McKong said: What was the horizontal scroller we played a few years ago, where the bosses are big insects? That was good Edit: I was thinking of Robix Yes that's a goodie and that other one we liked recently was it Malpass Mines... probaby another shooter poll is coming soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, therealbountybob said: Probably at least a 7/10 game A lot of people who misrate it then. Atarimania has 55 votes but no detailed statistics. Lemon 64 has 44 votes divided as such: 10/10 - 0 votes 9/10 - 0 votes 8/10 - 2 votes 7/10 - 4 votes 6/10 - 9 votes 5/10 - 9 votes 4/10 - 8 votes 3/10 - 7 votes 2/10 - 1 vote 1/10 - 4 votes So about 13% of the C64 users would agree with your rating, and probably the same goes for the A8 users. Perhaps Blue Max 2001 is an acquired taste simply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 8:11 PM, carlsson said: A lot of people who misrate it then. Atarimania has 55 votes but no detailed statistics. Lemon 64 has 44 votes divided as such: 10/10 - 0 votes 9/10 - 0 votes 8/10 - 2 votes 7/10 - 4 votes 6/10 - 9 votes 5/10 - 9 votes 4/10 - 8 votes 3/10 - 7 votes 2/10 - 1 vote 1/10 - 4 votes So about 13% of the C64 users would agree with your rating, and probably the same goes for the A8 users. Perhaps Blue Max 2001 is an acquired taste simply? I think like the original it's a case of changing the control over to dive up on the stick and down is pull back to ascend, then you can bomb when diving so a quick play would not be fun the other way around... just a guess not played it for years and years. Plus it's a game with some long term play like the original I think it still has the rating etc so it's designed to be challenging and after all it was a follow up to BM so it should be harder perhaps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Will start up the next round tomorrow - if it is Dropzone and Vanguard leading we will play just the winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) I realized we played Vanguard in 2018, but the all-time list didn't reflect this (until I took my moderation privileges and updated this). Thus in terms of rotating as many games as possible, it seems fine to only play Dropzone (which currently is in the lead). Edited August 1, 2022 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Is Dropzone playable on NTSC? I remember it being way too fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, mimo said: Is Dropzone playable on NTSC? I remember it being way too fast Yes there is am NTSC version these days ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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