+therealbountybob Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 CENTIPEDE + NEW GAMES SELECTION! Keeping everyone happy it's the old with the new here in the HSC Centipede 1982 (final A8 version) this version not HSC played in ages! Supports Trak-Ball in full TB mode too https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=1528 New games selection Additional new games can be found on fandal's news archive, any can be played since the last HSC round-up last season are ok but please list all your scores in alphabetical order each time you post to save me lots of searching around. Comments on the games good too the programmers may be watching !! https://a8.fandal.cz/index.php Cacorm looks like it might be a goodie?! https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8230 Dungoneer suggested by RT https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8225 Pac Time https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8266 Aerial https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8210 Cavit https://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Ok, since I didn't play any games previously this week, I'll start off this round with some Sunday evening scores: Centipede - 27779 pts Aerial - 12500 pts Cacorm - 24700 pts It appears that Fandal is not familiar with Inufuto as he has written ? on author. Those of us who hang around in other parts of the forum are quite familiar with Inufuto by now, after his massive effort to not only create ~10 different games, similar but not exact clones of existing games, but also the ability to port each of those games to about 40 different formats, all sorts of consoles and home computers! Needless to say, there are other computers out there far less capable than the Atari 8-bit is, and since he wants the ports to look and behave in the same way across all formats, it means the more advanced ones (obviously this includes the C64 etc as well) will get rather "simple" looking games with coarse scrolling, while the lower end systems will get better games than they ever could imagine. I understand that in the beginning he had trouble getting Player/Missile Graphics to work so he implemented software sprites on the A8 too, but in the later games he got PMG to work. The reason I'm writing this paragraph of text is of course not to criticize his work, since it generally is very good, but so other HSC members won't get shocked if new games made in 2021/2022 look like something Atari 8-bit games got away with in 1984. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 14 hours ago, carlsson said: Ok, since I didn't play any games previously this week, I'll start off this round with some Sunday evening scores: Centipede - 27779 pts Aerial - 12500 pts Cacorm - 24700 pts It appears that Fandal is not familiar with Inufuto as he has written ? on author. Those of us who hang around in other parts of the forum are quite familiar with Inufuto by now, after his massive effort to not only create ~10 different games, similar but not exact clones of existing games, but also the ability to port each of those games to about 40 different formats, all sorts of consoles and home computers! Needless to say, there are other computers out there far less capable than the Atari 8-bit is, and since he wants the ports to look and behave in the same way across all formats, it means the more advanced ones (obviously this includes the C64 etc as well) will get rather "simple" looking games with coarse scrolling, while the lower end systems will get better games than they ever could imagine. I understand that in the beginning he had trouble getting Player/Missile Graphics to work so he implemented software sprites on the A8 too, but in the later games he got PMG to work. The reason I'm writing this paragraph of text is of course not to criticize his work, since it generally is very good, but so other HSC members won't get shocked if new games made in 2021/2022 look like something Atari 8-bit games got away with in 1984. Thank Carlsson, very interesting to read. I guess you're saying I've picked several of Infuto's games as I just looked at screenshots and though they had the classic touch! Funny then they are up against an original classic Of course it's all about the gameplay so they have no excuses !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 1:08 PM, therealbountybob said: the last HSC round-up last season For reference, that was October 2021. Since then, Fandal has 61 new games (or ports of old games) in the archive, plus that perhaps there are new games not yet added to the site. I doubt anyone will want to wade through all of those but perhaps we'll find a few of the most competitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaG Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) On 9/25/2022 at 1:08 PM, therealbountybob said: Centipede (...) Supports Trak-Ball in full TB mode too Are you sure? I took out my trackball (for the first time in this century) and tried it with the original cartridge from ATARI and the xex from fandal. Both versions just work in joystick-mode. Or is there a "secret" key to press? BTW, it makes so much fun to use the trackball We should play MissileCommand in one of the follwing rounds. Edited September 27, 2022 by MichaG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MichaG said: Or is there a "secret" key to press? I think it's CTRL + T to put the game in trackball mode Nope, thats for missile command. Looks like Centipede was hacked to use a Trackball as the original release did not support it 🤷♂️ Make sure you are using the correct version (and maybe try CTRL + T ?) Edited September 27, 2022 by mimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaG Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, mimo said: I think it's CTRL + T to put the game in trackball mode I've tried this in several situations, nothing happened. In Missile Command, CTRL + T works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, MichaG said: I've tried this in several situations, nothing happened. In Missile Command, CTRL + T works... I was just editing my post to correct myself. I'll try and do some mere digging, but I should be working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-centipede_6054.html Looks like it is Joystick but you can use Trak-Ball in Joystick mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaG Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) Here I found a tp-version of Centipede: EDIT: It's a different version, maybe 5200-port? But it works with tb. For the HSC, I will continue to play the "original" game. Edited September 27, 2022 by MichaG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) On 9/27/2022 at 4:18 PM, MichaG said: Here I found a tp-version of Centipede: EDIT: It's a different version, maybe 5200-port? But it works with tb. For the HSC, I will continue to play the "original" game. Yes I just found that one too, not sure if the A8 Version has a hack to add TB oh well next time we can play the 5200 one or Millipede!! PLAY THE (FINAL) 1982 A8 VERSION OF CENTIPEDE LINK ON THE FIRST POST EVERYONE! Edited October 6, 2022 by therealbountybob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Trak-Ball, eh? Is there a version which supports Atari Mindlink? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaG Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 There seems to be a problem with Dungeoneer on PAL-systems and Altirra in PAL-mode. I've described it here: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariSphinx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Aerial- 13,600 (level 4) Cavit- 10,350 (level 7) Centipede- 74,157 Dungeoneer- 205 (level 6) Centipede is great. Too bad no trackball mode. Dungeoneer is impressive graphically as well as game play. Cavit is a good puzzle game. Sort of like dig dug but have to plan your path as you can't kill the baddies. Edited September 30, 2022 by AtariSphinx Added more games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariSphinx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Cacorm - 10,000 (level 7) Seems to be an issue with this one. When you reach level 4 the screen shakes. It is still playable but annoying. It continues through level 6. Once you hit level 7 the screen is fine once again. Playing on an NTSC machine. Probably won't play this one any more as hurts your eyes. It is though a really fun puzzle game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, AtariSphinx said: Cacorm - When you reach level 4 the screen shakes. It is still playable but annoying. It continues through level 6. Once you hit level 7 the screen is fine once again. Playing on an NTSC machine. Probably won't play this one any more as hurts your eyes. I didn't observe any of this on PAL 130XE (and I got to stage 9). I might try my NTSC 800 to see if it shakes for me too. Since Japan is NTSC, I would expect issues the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Here are my first offerings: Ariel: 12,650 Cacorm: 4,550 Cavit: 18,920 Pac-Time: 2,162 At first, these games seemed kind of boring, but after giving them each a fair shot, I'm really liking them! Trying to figure out why there are different colored dots in Pac-Time. There also seems to be a bar that tracks how many of each dot you eat. It adds and subtracts based on how many you eat in a row. Can't seem to figure out the significance of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Dungeoneer: 465! I wasn't able to get a screenshot. Make sure you take one before the Game Over screen, or it's gone forever. I did manage to get through all 6 levels. Then it goes back to level 1, but with a faster spider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Pac-Time: 5,540! I actually read the manual. If you eat more than 5 of one color at a time, the timer runs faster. So, make sure you keep a balance of green and pink dots. It's not a big deal in the first few rounds, but they give you less and less time as the levels progress. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Dungeoneer: 1,950! Missed the screenshot again, but got to where the spider moves as fast as you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Centipede: 212,200! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carlsson Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Centipede - 28137 pts I'm sorry to report another issue with Cacorm, in that there doesn't seem to be a way to reset stage after game over, meaning you will start your next game on the stage where you died. This affects both difficulty and scoring. I scored 25250 pts, starting on stage 9 and finishing on stage 17. It means in order to play this game properly, you need to reboot each time. Perhaps I can reach Inufuto to ask about this, though it requires the English -> Japanese translation to be satisfactory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Pac-Time: 8,148! Take THAT, Mike and Susan! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariSphinx Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Centipede: 317,955 Improvement! Got in a nice rhythm and setup the board nicely for taking out the Centipede. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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