doctorclu Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Oh cool, more time to play! Well then, new score 208,300. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, jgkspsx said: Skyhammer 288 Such an amazing game on the Jaguar. Probably the crowning technical achievement of the system and really nicely polished and amusing too. It's good, but choppy, and as I understand it almost unplayable when things really ramp up. Crowning technical achievement I think would go to Tempest 2000. That game many have agreed was the killer app of the system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Tempest 2000 is Gouraud shaded and has no polygon geometry other than the enemies and the bacon. It’s an amazing game but it isn’t doing nearly as much technically as Skyhammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 hours ago, jgkspsx said: Tempest 2000 is Gouraud shaded and has no polygon geometry other than the enemies and the bacon. It’s an amazing game but it isn’t doing nearly as much technically as Skyhammer. Ah, we are looking at where the Jaguar is working the hardest or doing more heavy lifting? I think Zero5 would be more likely in that category. Not a better or more likeable game as Tempest 2000, but visially impressive. Skyhammer might also be the Jaguar heavy lifting, but it is also obvious the Jaguar is saying meakly "help...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Zero 5 has no levels, just enemies and your ship. It also uses flat-shaded polygons. The only other game on the Jaguar that is on the level of Skyhammer technically is Black ICE White Noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 hour ago, jgkspsx said: Zero 5 has no levels, just enemies and your ship. It also uses flat-shaded polygons. No levels in Zero5? LOL.... 1 hour ago, jgkspsx said: The only other game on the Jaguar that is on the level of Skyhammer technically is Black ICE White Noise. Black Ice White Noise was promising looking. As for "technically superior", I think that comes down to personal preference. There is lot the Jaguar can do, and some of those things it does really well. IMHO Skyhammer and Black Ice White Noise showed the Jaguar could do a certain trick... with difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, doctorclu said: No levels in Zero5? LOL.... IMHO Skyhammer and Black Ice White Noise showed the Jaguar could do a certain trick... with difficulty. Zero 5 manages to do what Star Raiders and Star Strike did on the Atari 2600. That’s not really an achievement. Star Wars Arcade on the 32X did much more impressive things than Zero 5. The trick that Skyhammer and BIWN did was looking like a PlayStation game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jgkspsx said: Zero 5 manages to do what Star Raiders and Star Strike did on the Atari 2600. That’s not really an achievement. Star Wars Arcade on the 32X did much more impressive things than Zero 5. But you said it did not have levels. It clearly does was my point. And I'm sure there were many game systems that did many amazing things, we're discussing the Jaguar. 1 minute ago, jgkspsx said: The trick that Skyhammer and BIWN did was looking like a PlayStation game. And maybe that is why I am not buying into your arguement that your chosen two games were "technically superior" as I find a lot of early Playstation games fairly drab and boring. But hey, glad you have what you like, and I do as well. Think we just need to agree to disagree on this one. Fun games, ready for the next round of Jaguar HSC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 I meant 3D polygonal environments with geometry. I don’t mean to say that technical achievements make a game better - they definitely don’t. But I do think they should be appreciated for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 ROUND COMPLETE!! Thanks to everyone who played and congrats to @LianneJaguar64 and @doctorclu for your round winning scores! Updating HSC all time scores, and will get the next round up today! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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