Trioptrooper Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Atari Game Recorder- Play Game , Save Game , Record Gameplay and Play Video. With Control for Play/Record Switch . DECEMBER 84 Radio - Elecrronics Vol. 55 No. 12 AtariGameRecorder.pdf Edited July 8, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 The Atari Game Recorder was something I really wanted to build when I first rediscovered the Atari 2600 and joined AtariAge. I still have a bunch of Z80 cpus and 2kx8 ram chips I bought on ebay at the time for that purpose, and I OCR'ed the scans of the source code from the article, as the rom file wasn't available at the time (I don't know if it is now). I didn't go further as I later got a supercharger and then an eprom programmer with built in rom emulator (based on a z80, just like the AGR, btw) that I used to try homebrews and my programming attempts on real hardware. And finally the Harmony cart came out... I'd still like to build one, anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Trioptrooper said: Record Gameplay and Play Video. Hmm, no. The Atari Game Recorder is a rom emulator that connects to the Atari through the cartridge port. It can dump cartridges (only 4k if you use the diagram and software provided in those articles) into the onboard ram and save/load the dumps to/from tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 Yeah im not to sure i haven't even had the time to read the article before i shared it but i thought i glimpse upon it recording gameplay and playing it back as a demo. So i have purchased some 2016a so far. built the gerber with circuit maker in 1 night but sketchy. will fix it or get a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 $10 ordered 10 x Z08040004PSC Z80 DIP-40 IC Chips hope they work. Looking into Right Angle DC3 box header socket. 24p Rainbow Ribbon cable seems Atari ish too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 $25.88 for 25 of These M2716-1F1 M2716 2716 Memory UV EPROM Should do the trick , another part on the list. https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMeTlnw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) There are a few Chips on this board whoes circuit diagram doesn't come up on circuit maker . These can just be DIP sockets that you can label the feet Or you can build the part and host it. you will end up with this .SchDoc as Circuit Diagram. Circuit Maker 2.2.1. is easy to use. https://circuitmaker.com/ Edited July 9, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 Next part is the atari 2600 dc3 header for this cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) On 7/8/2023 at 10:12 PM, alex_79 said: The Atari Game Recorder was something I really wanted to build when I first rediscovered the Atari 2600 and joined AtariAge. I still have a bunch of Z80 cpus and 2kx8 ram chips I bought on ebay at the time for that purpose, and I OCR'ed the scans of the source code from the article, as the rom file wasn't available at the time (I don't know if it is now). I didn't go further as I later got a supercharger and then an eprom programmer with built in rom emulator (based on a z80, just like the AGR, btw) that I used to try homebrews and my programming attempts on real hardware. And finally the Harmony cart came out... I'd still like to build one, anyway. This looks useful. https://github.com/Kris-Sekula/EPROM-EMU-NG . Then I will have to wrap my wits on how to get the Firmware from the PDF text to Well what comes next. Might need this part too https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/2364_to_2764_or_2716_2732_to_2764_27512_adapter.html Edited July 11, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 In your first post you showed some severe misconceptions about what the Atari Game Recorder is, and later admitted you didn't actually read those articles. Did you take some time to study them in detail after that? I ask because I find quite odd that you think you need an eprom emulator (which might be of use, but not fundamental. And it's actually what the AGR is, so that you could use that instead of the AGR, to play the games in your Atari 2600!), but you have no clue how to get "the PDF text" (aka the source code in Z80 assembly) to "what comes next" (the binary to burn to the eprom). That's really something you need to figure out before you start buying parts. Why do you want to build the AGR in the first place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1st question - No i still have not found the time or lighting to read the article full. 2nd question the EPROM EMU is to Test the Code that I Have no Idea! Done by Scanning text With Google Drive PDF . There are alot of spaces to get right. 3rd Question. i1 dont believe you on that one without the hardware how could i test things. 4point What's wrong with Recreating A bit of History. I like to store info In mp3 format. EG , TAPE, Cd. So said Who? Have you built or tried ATR? Edited July 11, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: No i still have not found the time or lighting to read the article full. Ok. Probably I'm just weird, but that doesn't make sense to me. To each their own, I guess. 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: the EPROM EMU is to Test the Code... You can just use the eprom directly, since you need an eprom programmer and an eraser anyway. The eprom emulator makes it faster to test the code, but it is not indispensable, especially if you're not writing the software from scratch. 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: Done by Scanning text With Google Drive PDF . There are alot of spaces to get right. You should first learn a bit about how to use a z80 assembler and see if you can compile z80 source code. The listing in the article might need to be adjusted depending on what assembler you're using, and without at least a little bit of knowledge about the z80 assembly language, it will be almost impossible to fix the eventual (and probable!) mistakes you can make while typing or caused by the OCR process. And the article might contain typos too... 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: i1 dont believe you on that one without the hardware how could i test things. With a z80 simulator, for example... Anyway, you should first concentrate on having a source that you can actually compile into a binary file. The fact that it compiles doesn't guarantee that there aren't errors, but if it doesn't you have no binary to burn into the eprom, and in that case any hardware you build is just a doorstop. 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: What's wrong with Recreating A bit of History. Nothing. That's actually a very good reason. I was just wondering if you were looking for some particular feature that the AGR doesn't provide, such as "record gameplay and play video" that you mentioned at the beginning of this thread. 1 hour ago, Trioptrooper said: So said Who? Have you built or tried ATR? I haven't. As I said, I'd like to do it someday. I was just expressing some concerns about how you're approaching this project, that's it. I have nothing else to add about this subject. Edited July 11, 2023 by alex_79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Trioptrooper said: Z80 https://www.oshonsoft.com/z80gettingstarted.php Thanks for advice. 18 hours ago, Trioptrooper said: This looks useful. https://github.com/Kris-Sekula/EPROM-EMU-NG . Then I will have to wrap my wits on how to get the Firmware from the PDF text to Well what comes next. Might need this part too https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/2364_to_2764_or_2716_2732_to_2764_27512_adapter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Has anyone Made any Progress on the ATR ? Atariage Maybe gpt-3 chatbot gpt-3 Can't? Edited July 11, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) do you know any free "z80 simulator" ? ?? $$ Edited July 11, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 7:32 AM, Trioptrooper said: There are a few Chips on this board whoes circuit diagram doesn't come up on circuit maker . These can just be DIP sockets that you can label the feet Or you can build the part and host it. you will end up with this .SchDoc as Circuit Diagram. Circuit Maker 2.2.1. is easy to use. https://circuitmaker.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 Beginning the redo. But keeping it to my self for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 16 hours ago, alex_79 said: I have nothing else to add about this subject. Just one last thing. This is wrong: You should learn some basics about microprocessor systems and memory interfacing, and what a bus is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, alex_79 said: More Errors . That data bus It registered then didn't . You should of pointed out the actual data bus errors I made . So next. .. Thankyou Edited July 12, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 Not sure what was going wrong here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 also noticed the price of what These things were plugging into hypothetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trioptrooper Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) Found this older post on Atariage. And you might find an update in the magazine as sometimes there is typos that get corrected. This site has some good clear scans of AGR. www.americanradiohistory.com https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/80s/1985/Radio-Electronics-1985-01.pdf Edited October 17, 2023 by Trioptrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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