wildstar87 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 If you have a non-yellowed, 1200XL Case in good condition, I'd be interested in acquiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Finding 1200XLs generally is pretty hard. (I am in the UK and had to ship mine over from the States as you just don't see them here). Not sure if you are gonna find someone with a spare case tbh. I think you'll likely be looking at buying a complete unit and they won't be cheap. Good luck though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) I'm also looking for a case. But since it's almost impossible to get one at reasonable price here in Poland, I made a temporary one myself. Out of a carton box 🤪 Looks pretty... interresting 😁 Edited July 13, 2023 by Peri Noid 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 @bob1200xl might be able to help. He has all kinds of 1200 stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peri Noid said: I'm also looking for a case. But since it's almost impossible to get one at reasonable price here in Poland, I made a temporary one myself. Out of a carton box 🤪 Looks pretty... interresting 😁 Very resourceful .. Although slightly concerned about fire risk here!!! Especially given there is a large capacitor and heatsink on the 1200XLs unshielded top right: Edited July 13, 2023 by Beeblebrox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I know, I know. But it doesn't get that hot (I checked). If I don't get an original case, I'll replace the two 7805's with Traco converters, then it will be only a bridge rectifier to get warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 @Peri Noid Love it, I might do something similar for my XEGS. Might be a candidate for a simple clear plexiglass case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 XEGS is a much better candidate for such case since it doesn't have a keyboard. It's construction would be much simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 @Peri Noidsure, just being mindful of ya safety. Any casing for a retro/vintage machine should ideally be made from Non-combustable materials. It's just not worth the risk. My mate is a fireman and the amount of fire's started from small electical faults is very commonplace. Often just takes a spark or a sustained heat source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 the traco converters put a noise into the system that affects certain peripherals or combinations of peripherals, as noted from time to time in the forums. This happens when putting them into disk drives as well... you have to really be cognizant that there will need to be added filtration and noise suppression. I had to add caps and toroid beads to the circuit to stop the interference for someone. I hadn't noted what the exact parts list was at the time but it does need to be done. Nothing sucks more than later on chasing a gremlin down that was created by such a modification. It works great until it doesn't so to speak. Playing whack a mole sucks when the issues are firmly routed in such forgotten modifications. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar87 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Beeblebrox said: Finding 1200XLs generally is pretty hard. (I am in the UK and had to ship mine over from the States as you just don't see them here). Not sure if you are gonna find someone with a spare case tbh. I think you'll likely be looking at buying a complete unit and they won't be cheap. Good luck though. Yeah, I know, but never hurts to ask. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: the traco converters put a noise into the system that affects certain peripherals or combinations of peripherals, as noted from time to time in the forums. This happens when putting them into disk drives as well... I put Tracos in one of my XF551 - works like a charm. I put them in my LDW2000 (an Indus GT clone) - no problem there as well. I have them in various Spectrums, they work like charm. So... it looks like you're repeating something you read or you have the wrong data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar87 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 @Peri Noid That is definitely unique! Where did you get the nameplate from, or did you make it somehow? Did you just buy all the other parts separately, curious how you put this system together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I bought the badge from a guy, who makes them here in Poland. It's made of plastic, not metal. And it's actually 0.5mm too narrow. I bought the motherboard some time ago, like half a year. It needed service. The keyboard - few weeks ago. I'm missing an original case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Peri Noid said: I bought the badge from a guy, who makes them here in Poland. It's made of plastic, not metal. And it's actually 0.5mm too narrow. I bought the motherboard some time ago, like half a year. It needed service. The keyboard - few weeks ago. I'm missing an original case. I've bought a few badges from the same guy too in Poland. Good quality and very good value for money, even when shipping to the UK. (Assuming it's the same guy) Here is the supplier I've used (marstickers): https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/marstickers Edited July 13, 2023 by Beeblebrox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, wildstar87 said: Yeah, I know, but never hurts to ask. absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar87 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Peri Noid said: I bought the badge from a guy, who makes them here in Poland. It's made of plastic, not metal. And it's actually 0.5mm too narrow. I bought the motherboard some time ago, like half a year. It needed service. The keyboard - few weeks ago. I'm missing an original case. How did you mount the keyboard? It's normally screwed into the top case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Peri Noid said: If I don't get an original case, I'll replace the two 7805's with Traco converters, then it will be only a bridge rectifier to get warm. Why not go whole-hog there and pull the bridge rectifier, too? Put in a couple wires from the jack to bypass to former rectifier outputs and you can power the whole system with a modern 5VDC PSU. 1 hour ago, _The Doctor__ said: the traco converters put a noise into the system that affects certain peripherals or combinations of peripherals, as noted from time to time in the forums. I've got Tracos in several of my systems with no ill effects. The low-cost knockoff switching regulators you can buy on eBay or AliExpress are one thing - actual Traco units are in a different league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peri Noid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, wildstar87 said: How did you mount the keyboard? It's normally screwed into the top case. I used 2 additional layers of cart board to flush function keys with the top and lower the keys in general. And then I used zip ties to fasten everything. Maybe the photos will explain more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I have some top and bottom pieces, as well as k/b masks. Not too bad... Bob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) not repeating anything, do what you do, just remember when it's being strange about this device or that... might come back to noisy power, traco or not. It's not so untypical on the forum as it works for me now ;). Almost always it's a mystery thread later, ymmv. It's not you shouldn't, it's more like make the added effort to make it clean so you won't ever have a problem later. Edited July 13, 2023 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstar87 Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, bob1200xl said: I have some top and bottom pieces, as well as k/b masks. Not too bad... Bob I'll send a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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