AtariAge + Atari Q&A

[JPF997]

15 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:

My stomach feeling here is, that us older, long time members are more pessimistic than the never ones. Which could be due to multiple reasons:

• We are old and afraid of change (that's what younger people usually think, and which is only partially true, IMO)
• We have more 1st hand experience with Atari (we were there when "things" happened)
• We have more experience with acquisitions (even personally, even multiple times)
• We have more experience with broken company promises (personally here too)
• We have more experience with all kinds of PR blah blah (personally of course)

Overall, I think life has killed a lot of our illusions since when we were young. We have learned that words usually mean nothing when money is involved.

I understand the old fans pessimism but you need to understand that for late millennials and early zoomers like me the Atari that we grew up with is the modern one (that once upon a time was know as Infogrames), our nostalgia is for the Atari of the 2000s not the one from the 80s and 90s,plus look on the bright side, since Wade came in and basically saved the company from Chenais's incompetence we've gotten games like the recharged series, kombinera, Mr run and jump, system shock remake, pong quest, Atari mania, Atari 50... and this is only the beginning of the new era, I can't wait to see what's gonna come next, the Atari renaissance is one of the things I'm most enjoying about modern gaming ( alongside Sega and SNK's own renaissance's of course ).

[MrBeefy]

1 minute ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:

My stomach feeling here is, that us older, long time members are more pessimistic than the never ones. Which could be due to multiple reasons:

• We are old and afraid of change (that's what younger people usually think, and which is only partially true, IMO)
• We have more 1st hand experience with Atari (we were there when "things" happened)
• We have more experience with acquisitions (even personally, even multiple times)
• We have more experience with broken company promises (personally here too)
• We have more experience with all kinds of PR blah blah (personally of course)

Overall, I think life has killed a lot of our illusions since when we were young. We have learned that words usually mean nothing when it comes to money.

I get the pessimism, but this is an honest question. What would you like be done about AA? Lets say Al God forbid, had a heart attack and he was incapable of running AA. What would be the scenario that wouldn't bring pessimism?

 

There was always an endpoint. It has just been a matter of when. It at least has some chance this way. Al could have just said eff it and shut it down completely. Or sold it off to Tommy Tallarico who many thought wanted to buy AA. 🤷‍♀️

 

Also I want to be the first goober to say, I'm posting this on the not real AtariAge. The real AtariAge ended with the sale! 🤪

 

 

 

 

 

*Yes I believe this is still AtariAge. I just find the "real Atari" discussions funny.

[+jgkspsx]

15 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

And instead of worrying about Battle Zone just make a tank game in a similar vein and call it Armor Ambush and call it a day. 

I see what you did there 😅

[MrBeefy]

2 minutes ago, JPF997 said:

I understand the old fans pessimism but you need to understand that for late millennials and early zoomers like me the Atari that we grew up with is the modern one (that once upon a time was know as Infogrames), plus look on the bright side, since Wade came in and basically saved the company from Chenais's incompetence we've gotten games like the recharged series, kombinera, Mr run and jump, system shock remake, pong quest, Atari mania, Atari 50... and this is only the beginning of the new era, I can't wait to see what's gonna come next, the Atari renaissance is one of the things I'm most enjoying about modern gaming ( alongside Sega and SNK's own renaissance's of course ).

If you are a late mellinial you've had ample opportunities to play all these old games. They haven't been hiding in a dump site somewhere...

[JPF997]

3 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

If you are a late mellinial you've had ample opportunities to play all these old games. They haven't been hiding in a dump site somewhere...

But I have... I already said I did, they just don't old the same nostalgia for me like say Budokai 3 and Enter the Matrix do, that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the classics, I bought the atari 50 collection because I wanted to experience them for the first time, I've also fallen in love with the recharged series, some of best remake's any old ip's have ever received bar none.

[guppy]

9 hours ago, jgkspsx said:

Atari 50 was a transformative work, the best interactive game museum ever made. If they were giving it away for free, it would not have been made.

 

Not only that, if they released the binary roms into the public domain, Steam and the Switch would be flooded with “2600 collections” from shovelware developers selling the games in bad emulators with no historical context and with atrocious quality control.

 

id Software released the engines for Doom and Quake, not any trademark or copyright on the actual games. They are still making millions of dollars on those games every year. Nobody is allowed to sell them without a license. Nobody is allowed to distribute any of the official wads without a license except for the original shareware ones.

That's a fair point you make about Atari 50 being more than simply the old ROMs.  In truth, I have no problem if Atari were to release collections with "value added" content like that.

 

The point I was trying to make was, selling only the games themselves is a weak business strategy.  

 

Atari 50 may be one thing -- I didn't buy it, so I can't say I've experienced it enough to say that it wasn't worth the money.  I can only say that I personally didn't find it attractive as a product, because I already own all of those games, and whatever else they did around that collection, didn't entice me enough to look at it to even know what it was.

 

For a better of example of what I'm saying Atari should stop doing is the AtGames Flashback consoles.  Here, they warmed over a collection of 20-100 old games, added some exotica (newly discovered, unreleased game!) and hope that I'll be willing to spend $50 to get that one game I don't already have.

 

Sure, there's an extremely long tail revenue stream that you can eke pennies out of for decades.  I don't see that as vital to Atari's future.  If you want to take tiny residuals from the trickle of sales of ancient games, selling them to new generations of gamers who are increasingly disconnected, that's "fine" but that's in no way a bold vision for a new and resurgent Atari.

 

Look, people go to medieval/renaissance faires and civil war reenactments. So clearly there's some interest in the past, and it's not a bad thing to keep that past alive.  That doesn't mean that it has to be a core product in your business model.  I'm advocating that it doesn't need to be a product at all.

 

I'm not the entire market.  I understand there are people born every day who have never experienced classic Atari.  I understand that there are people my age who lost their collections and wake up one day wanting to go back to revisit their childhood and experience nostalgia.

 

But here I am, I'm sitting on a 40+ year old collection of games that I've never gotten rid of, and I think of myself as one of Atari's biggest fans and supporters over the years, through thick and thin, and I'm not going to re-buy every time they're offered, especially when my collection holds more titles than Atari even owns to try to re-sell to me.  

 

8 hours ago, Matt_B said:

Atari weren't just looking at creating a regular casino, subject to all the usual licensing regulations, but one that ran on cryptocurrency and was offshored to the laxest jurisdiction that they (or at least their partner company who would be running it) could find. Out of all the things they were ever involved in, I'd say that it was far and away the shadiest, and I don't find it in any way compatible with a company that wants to be a respectable brand in video games.

 

Thankfully, they backed out of the project. That was in July 2021.

 

https://www.thegamer.com/atari-cancels-casinos/

 

Much though I'd like to write it off as being the last gasp of the Chesnais era, it really hasn't been that long since then.

Thanks for that additional information; I wasn't aware of all that.  

7 hours ago, SIO2 said:

Stop buying them.

 

They wouldn't sell them if someone didn't buy them. 

 

If someone wants to buy them why should they not sell them?  Indeed, if someone wants to buy them why should it bother you?  You simply refrain from buying.  No problem.

 

Let people enjoy life as they see fit as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

Stop buying them? I haven't re-bought most of these collections.  They continue to be made and sold.  But by selling these re-hashed products, Atari is failing to tap into the market segment that I belong to.  It's a missed opportunity for them.

 

"If someone wants to buy them, why should Atari not sell them?"

 

Because Atari should be giving that stuff away for free by now.  There is value for Atari in giving it away for free.  Really?  What value?  It would create immense goodwill for Atari if they did that.  Just about all the complaining and concern expressed here would fade away instantly.  Atari would be seen to be owned by people who understand that the value of their history lies not in the re-packaging and selling of it, but in the cultural imprint Atari's legacy IP created in in the world.

 

Because every time Atari decide to re-release old product, it ties up resources that they could have put into developing new properties that would have been of interest to consumers like me. 

 

Because every time Atari does this, they're saying "We frankly admit that don't have any new ideas, that we think are better than releasing the old games one more time, and doing that would make more money for our investment than anything else we could do." And that's sad.

 

Old games are great. They're classic. They're historical. They should be preserved.  They should never be discontinued.  And they should be free.  Atari's business focus should be to make money from new products.

 

5 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

A company is a like a boat, you can't make an instant U-turn. For instance, the VCS was designed under the previous management, but the new one has to support it whether they approve of it or not; abandoning it would be a very bad signal to VCS owners, who are among the strongest Atari supporters obviously. So we'll still see the consequences of previous decisions for a few years at least.

This is a very important point. Businesses launch products and should commit to support them for a reasonable lifespan. Otherwise, customers get burned and learn to stop trusting the company to be there for them. So I understand why they need to continue to support the new-VCS.  It's good that they're continuing to develop for it.  It's just too bad that they have to sink so much resources into it, when they could have avoided all that and just focused on delivering new games.

 

Just now, Zoyous said:

Apparently not! If they're still selling them, it means there are still people buying them. Why are there new pressings of Led Zeppelin and Beatles albums? Not only are there new people who want to buy them, there are people who already bought them who want to buy them again for various reasons ranging from wanting a new copy for daily use to wanting an ostentatiously expensive deluxe copy as a collector's item. Similarly, regarding the 2600+... why does Ford keep releasing new iterations of the F-150? I already got an F-150 years ago that still works! You may have reached the "ad nauseum" threshold but the rest of the marketplace has not, and if well-managed, never will.

Replacing worn-out hardware makes sense.  If they can do that as a business model, I'm not against it.

 

The 2600+ is a very near miss to what I'd like to see coming out of Atari today.  If they could have made it perfectly compatible with the old games, I would buy it.  FPGA or real hardware.

 

Re-printing old back catalog stuff is also fine, and even selling that stuff is fine, but they really ought to gift the binaries to the public domain or the creative commons.  Let copyright for vintage games be 20 years after the end of manufacture for the system they were originally designed to be played on, and after that let the games become public domain.

 

Old ROMs ought to be free to download, and anyone ought to be free to hack them, or create new games based on them, without tying up a bunch of Atari Legal's assets as they try to quash such projects in order to "protect" Atari by alienating them from their best customers and fans. 

 

If a random fan wants to do homage to Adventure, it should be expressly encouraged by Atari for them to do that.  Atari doesn't need to try to make money off of it, and doesn't need to feel like their ability to make money is threatened by it.

 

I want Atari's future to be in new games, not to have their only business model be to try to convince me to re-purchase stuff that I already have.

[leech]

30 minutes ago, JPF997 said:

There are so many ips that Atari should consider re acquiring that they sold off  last decade  now that they're getting back on they're feet, Driver, v-rally, test drive, Blood  (Warner actually owns the copyright), alone in the dark, the dungeons and dragons license ( especially now that Baldurs gate is becoming mainstream again, also Neverwinter nights ), battle zone as you've mentioned and so much more, it will take some time but I'm sure eventually they'll be able to get some of this  stuff back in the Atari vault where it belongs.

Ha, I was wondering something about the D&D license.  As Atari only had it for a few short years, and it seems to float around to different companies from time to time.  I think they could approach Hasbro (who ultimately owns it) and get some games published with it again.  What I would like to see is the old SSI stuff make a come back...

[zzip]

On 9/8/2023 at 7:03 PM, WAVE 1 GAMES said:

This iteration of Atari is not a giant corporation. They are a newer much much smaller version of Atari trying to rebuild a dead brand for the people they are supposed to be appealing to. Atari hasn't gotten enough props for all of their latest efforts IMHO. What I see here with Atari purchasing AtariAge is them again trying to connect with it's community and keep the brand alive, refreshing and new Just as Albert has done over the past 20 years with the AA store, what I'm seeing in the Q&A is a lot of push back from the community on every single thing that they can think of to try and hold over Atari. It's not fair.

I see a double standard in the community:

1. The claim that due to IP changing hands, the current iteration of Atari is not the real Atari

2. But yet it's fair game to hold the current management of Atari accountable of sins of previous ownership

 

On 9/8/2023 at 7:03 PM, WAVE 1 GAMES said:

In closing I will just say one more thing. I found the long running taco box jokes about as lame as why did the chicken cross the road, it was never really funny, just lame. And a bit disrespectful to ask an Atari employee trying his best to do his job about tacos as its a direct reference to said negativity.

The taco meme was super lame.   May have been funny for a minute but it was done to death.   But to me, I had the opposite reaction, seeing an Atari employee playing along with it kind of deflates the negativity of it, the way self-deprecating humor does

 

On 9/8/2023 at 7:48 PM, CharlieChaplin said:

Okay, I am going with the girl then. 

(But only if she still looks like that, which I doubt.)

I think I'll withhold judgement until I see how "Gotcha Recharged" turns out...

 

 

[JPF997]

6 minutes ago, zzip said:

I see a double standard in the community:

1. The claim that due to IP changing hands, the current iteration of Atari is not the real Atari

2. But yet it's fair game to hold the current management of Atari accountable of sins of previous ownership

 

The taco meme was super lame.   May have been funny for a minute but it was done to death.   But to me, I had the opposite reaction, seeing an Atari employee playing along with it kind of deflates the negativity of it, the way self-deprecating humor does

 

I think I'll withhold judgement until I see how "Gotcha Recharged" turns out...

 

 

Indeed the hipocrisy sometimes can get annoying, it's like if someone really hates modern Atari that much and only considers the original as legitimate, then may I ask why exactly doesn't the original company exist anymore then, could it be that they were far more incompetent and mismanaged than current Atari ( that has existed for over two decades now ) is, just some food for thought.

[MrBeefy]

Why would they stop making Flashback like consoles when their demographic so easily buys tripe when it just has a Fuji symbol on it? I've never seen a community so adamant about STOP SELLING US ASTEROIDS FOR THE QUADZILLINTH TIME! and in the next moment buy something from Atari because, IT'S MY CHILDHOOD AND I LOVE IT! OMG ADVENTURE STILL MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A KID! 🥰

 

I always thought AtGames did a good job and had value for what you bought. People complained and they moved on. Now you have the company themselves doing it and asking for more money for it and providing less value.

 

People should be happy anyone is releasing these games in any form. This is going to sound harsh, but by today's standards many of these games are bland and unimaginative. Maybe that was different in the 70s but we are kind of a decent way beyond that time.

 

 

 

*Now excuse me as I go and play some Adventure.

[JPF997]

Just now, MrBeefy said:

Why would they stop making Flashback like consoles when their demographic so easily buys tripe when it just has a Fuji symbol on it? I've never seen a community so adamant about STOP SELLING US ASTEROIDS FOR THE QUADZILLINTH TIME! and in the next moment buy something from Atari because, IT'S MY CHILDHOOD AND I LOVE IT! OMG ADVENTURE STILL MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A KID! 🥰

 

I always thought AtGames did a good job and had value for what you bought. People complained and they moved on. Now you have the company themselves doing it and asking for more money for it and providing less value.

 

People should be happy anyone is releasing these games in any form. This is going to sound harsh, but by today's standards many of these games are bland and unimaginative. Maybe that was different in the 70s but we are kind of a decent way beyond that time.

 

 

 

*Now excuse me as I go and play some Adventure.

With just a few small enhancements all these old classics become just as playable as any modern game , the recharged series has proven that without a shadow of a doubt.

[+DrVenkman]

43 minutes ago, JPF997 said:

There are so many ips that Atari should consider re acquiring that they sold off  last decade  now that they're getting back on they're feet, Driver, v-rally, test drive, Blood  (Warner actually owns the copyright), alone in the dark, the dungeons and dragons license ( especially now that Baldurs gate is becoming mainstream again, also Neverwinter nights ), battle zone as you've mentioned and so much more, it will take some time but I'm sure eventually they'll be able to get some of this  stuff back in the Atari vault where it belongs.

All of those titles are of a completely different era than Battle Zone, both in terms of which “Atari” produced them, and the arcade hardware they run one. For those of us who were old enough to remember when those big Battle Zone cabs first appeared in arcades, bowling alleys and bars, the lack of the title in the otherwise-excellent Atari 50 package stood out like a sore thumb. 

[Lostdragon]

21 hours ago, Xyla said:

Well as an ST freak myself, I can definitely think of some killer games for the ST.  Those Youtube videos of "Top 25 Atari ST Games" and such always leave me confused because I rarely agree with their picks.  Lots of them go with driving games, which is not my thing... but at least it is true that the ST dominated the Amiga with those kind of filled polygon 3D titles.  Anyway, just off the top of my head some of my personal favorites...

Dungeon Master
Sundog
Time Bandit
Airball
JUG
Goldrunner
Goldrunner II
Tetra Quest
Starglider
Sentinel
Roadrunner
Backlash
Joust (The best port of Joust out there prior to the arcade emulation era)
MIDI Maze (Unfortunately it's only great if you have multiple STs)

Some of these are not ST exclusives, but with how much higher quality the ST version is, they might as well be.
I feel that Microdeal/Michtron was the best ST software developer overall, they really knew how to program the hardware and had a lot of great titles.

I can only comment on the games I have had personal experience with so here goes. 

 

Dungeon Master literally blew me away at the time, such an amazing experience. 

 

 

Backlash was shallow but superb fun. 

Joust was superb. 

 

Time Bandit was great. 

 

 

Road Runner just didn't work for me it's core gameplay was limited in the arcades  and when it came to the ST with joystick controls and iffy collision detection, it was a weaker experience again. 

 

 

Starglider on the 128K ZX Spectrum was a better experience, with it's extra missions etc, but game itsekf was just Jez Dan's homage to the Star Wars coin op. 

 

 

Never found the Goldrunner games that great to actually play. 

 

I'd add, if we are talking better experiences, Defender Of The Crown, over the Amiga version and there are other titles where the ST version had the edge over the Amiga version, to some degree, but not to the point where I could personally see the justification for an ST mini, the libraries are simply too similar. 

 

 

 

[MrBeefy]

8 minutes ago, zzip said:

The taco meme was super lame.   May have been funny for a minute but it was done to death.   But to me, I had the opposite reaction, seeing an Atari employee playing along with it kind of deflates the negativity of it, the way self-deprecating humor does

Glad to see someone gets it! The person handled it beautifully. If they'd gone on a tirade and started calling any taco lovers gaming racists, then I'd say this will definitely end badly.

[JPF997]

Just now, DrVenkman said:

All of those titles are of a completely different era than Battle Zone, both in terms of which “Atari” produced them, and the arcade hardware they run one. For those of us who were old enough to remember when those big Battle Zone cabs first appeared in arcades, bowling alleys and bars, the lack of the title in the otherwise-excellent Atari 50 package stood out like a sore thumb. 

I think the lack of ST is much worse than not having battle zone, I've always wanted to play some ST games but never had the opportunity, I think that was the biggest missed opportunity in the otherwise masterpiece that was Atari 50.

[MateusSolo]

15 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said:

My stomach feeling here is, that us older, long time members are more pessimistic than the never ones. Which could be due to multiple reasons:

• We are old and afraid of change (that's what younger people usually think, and which is only partially true, IMO)
• We have more 1st hand experience with Atari (we were there when "things" happened)
• We have more experience with acquisitions (even personally, even multiple times)
• We have more experience with broken company promises (personally here too)
• We have more experience with all kinds of PR blah blah (personally of course)

Overall, I think life has killed a lot of our illusions since when we were young. We have learned that words usually mean nothing when money is involved.

I second every single word Thomas said. Even though I'm a new member in the forums, I've been a lurker here since the very beginning - and a game collector my entire life. While knowing Al feels relieved with the sale makes me personally happy, because this community wouldn't be where it is without him and he seems to be a great fella all around, the sale makes me worried for all the same reasons Thomas listed.

[+GoldLeader]

Seems to me most of the "old timers" are not ragging on Atari over casinos and game releases.  Add in lawyers, crushed dreams, personal experiences, personally getting scammed (by,  say,  a former CEO),  hostility toward AA members for various reasons...(Not me personally,  I am speaking for others),  and you would be getting closer,  I'd venture...

[JPF997]

32 minutes ago, leech said:

Ha, I was wondering something about the D&D license.  As Atari only had it for a few short years, and it seems to float around to different companies from time to time.  I think they could approach Hasbro (who ultimately owns it) and get some games published with it again.  What I would like to see is the old SSI stuff make a come back...

It's not just the dungeons and dragons license that they lost during the 2013 bankruptcy, they also lost Dragon Ball  (much bigger blow), Beyblade, unreal tournament, civilization, Superman, Matrix etc a lot of this stuff is going to be very hard to get back but they should still try once they reach the same level of  financially health they had in the late 90s/early 2000s.

[+x=usr(1536)]

So relieved to see these circular discussions rehashed yet again.  The thread was way too on-topic there for a minute.

[Raiu]

It's not fair to keep asking "What should Albert have done, if not this?"  I can know I don't like something (and why) without necessarily being able to come up with alternatives.

 

Even if the current version of Atari follows through on all of its promises, there's no telling how long this version of Atari will exist.  The next CEO could just as easily decide to chuck classic games, chuck the Atari age website, chuck video games entirely, and become a Cryptocurrency and NFT-focused company.

 

(That may sound ridiculous, but it's literally what a company called Enjin just did. For fourteen years, Enjin used to be about building websites and forums, and was used extensively by MMORPG guilds and Discord roleplaying groups, and then they shut the whole thing down to dive 100% into NFTs and the blockchain instead)

 

So, yeah, I'm pessimistic. But any real downsides won't be apparent until months if not years down the line, when someone high up at Atari decides this site isn't pulling its weight and decides to enforce a drastic redesign.  Or when the Atariage logo is suddenly replaced with a bored ape.

[JPF997]

9 minutes ago, GoldLeader said:

Seems to me most of the "old timers" are not ragging on Atari over casinos and game releases.  Add in lawyers, crushed dreams, personal experiences, personally getting scammed (by,  say,  a former CEO),  hostility toward AA members for various reasons...(Not me personally,  I am speaking for others),  and you would be getting closer,  I'd venture...

What exactly are you referring to here, the casinos and the scam's we're during the Chenais era, all of that is gone now( really the only good things Chenais ever did was make that speaker that I really want and greenlighting the VCS ), now lawyers and crushed dreams your gonna have to explain what exactly you're referring to there.

[MrMaddog]

First of all, congrats to Al and the current Atari for their new partnership as far as the homebrew store is concerned.  The availablity of homebrew games as both physical AA carts and downloadable titles on the VCS can be beneficial for current 2600 programers.

 

But if on the forums there's going to be connection between the old and new Atari communities, then it's time to stop the constant ageist gatekeeping that goes on here because I'm real sick and tired of feeling like an outsider just because I don't have a working 40+ year old hardware for playing flash carts and homebrews that use ARM co-processors.  I don't need to prove to anyone how long I've been a "real Atari fan" nor do I need the valadation from any online retrogaming community who always measures by the amount of plastic carts sitting on backshelves.

 

I get it, the previous administrations that ran Atari before did crappy things...boo hoo get over it.  At least the current version is still making games, supporting the VCS and even making physical carts that run on 2600 consoels (both old & new).  You don't like the new Atari stuff then don't buy it...but that doesn't give anyone here the right to crap on anyone who wants to enjoy old classics on modern devices.

 

They're trying to do right but all you people ever do is spit in their faces just like you drive newcomers away.  So unless things change here, I can't see how AA can continue to be a community for all Atari fans.

 

So good bye & good luck to all you guys, hope you actually get along....

 

[MrBeefy]

1 minute ago, MrMaddog said:

But if on the forums there's going to be connection between the old and new Atari communities, then it's time to stop the constant ageist gatekeeping that goes on here because I'm real sick and tired of feeling like an outsider just because I don't have a working 40+ year old hardware for playing flash carts and homebrews that use ARM co-processors.

 

[JPF997]

4 minutes ago, Raiu said:

It's not fair to keep asking "What should Albert have done, if not this?"  I can know I don't like something (and why) without necessarily being able to come up with alternatives.

 

Even if the current version of Atari follows through on all of its promises, there's no telling how long this version of Atari will exist.  The next CEO could just as easily decide to chuck classic games, chuck the Atari age website, chuck video games entirely, and become a Cryptocurrency and NFT-focused company.

 

(That may sound ridiculous, but it's literally what a company called Enjin just did. For fourteen years, Enjin used to be about building websites and forums, and was used extensively by MMORPG guilds and Discord roleplaying groups, and then they shut the whole thing down to dive 100% into NFTs and the blockchain instead)

 

So, yeah, I'm pessimistic. But any real downsides won't be apparent until months if not years down the line, when someone high up at Atari decides this site isn't pulling its weight and decides to enforce a drastic redesign.  Or when the Atariage logo is suddenly replaced with a bored ape.

It's very likely Wade Rosen will stick around as Atari's CEO for a very long time to come, he owns 50% of the company already, no one can kick him out now, as long as he is in charge I don't see reason to worry about Atari's future.

[+SmittyB]

1 hour ago, JPF997 said:

How about helping the homebrew devs by publishing they're games on the big platforms, that would be a great move right 

Well yes that would be great, but it would be nice to know if Atari has in-progress plans to do that or if it's a "maybe in the future" thing.