+-^CrossBow^- Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I know this came up once before when OSSC FW .85 was released and there were complaints about Jag RGB not working stably for folks. At that time I wasn't having much issues with it but now I know it was because of the games I happen to be playing most of the time not being an issue. Now, with the recent batch of Jag releases from Reboot and others, I've now got to say that trying to play the Jag through RGB on my OSSC is a massive frustration. All of the games on my Dr. Typo collection have consant drop outs on the video with sync getting lost quite a bit. But I also noticed that even something like Hover Strike will have occasional drop outs. I've not got my OSSC on FW .89 (Hoping it would help issues with my 7800GD not working), and one of the new features I noticed about .89 is it now does auto phasing as I see a message pop up from the OSSC telling me as such. It doesn't come up on the Jag games, instead they just blink out completely for a second or two before coming back up. So yeah... any progress or settings that others have found work for them with Jaguar RGB through OSSC setups using RetroGamingCables Jag c-sync cables? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 No feedback from others on this? Well, I guess it is moot now as I did the OSSC modification this weekend and updated my OSSC to FW 1.08. Wtih that I'm able to play all of the Dr. Typo games with the only issue now, being on the game Fallen Angels where the video will still occasionally dropout for a second but only during the launch sequence at the beginning of the level. Once that is done, the game seems to play fine without any issues while before it was kinda unplayable because the video would drop out so much while trying to play. So at least in the case of the Jaguar, the OSSD mod that allows the new firmware to work appears to have solved my issues on the Jaguar RGB output. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5345498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariusxg Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 https://www.retroupgrades.co.uk/product/gbs-c-aio/ This performs well, using a scart. plug and play. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5346902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sargon Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I have never had any issues with my Jaguar SCART to OSSC, but I have to admit to have only played a handful of games. I'm planning on upgrading to either a PixelFx Morph or a RetroTink 4K in the near future anyway, but if I get some extra time I'll try Dr. Typo with my current setup and see what happens. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5346908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Sargon said: I have never had any issues with my Jaguar SCART to OSSC, but I have to admit to have only played a handful of games. I'm planning on upgrading to either a PixelFx Morph or a RetroTink 4K in the near future anyway, but if I get some extra time I'll try Dr. Typo with my current setup and see what happens. Fallen Angels was the one that gave me the most issues. Video would drop out on the launch sequence (Still does but not for as long an amount of time), and it would constantly drop off while flying within the levels etc. It was basically unplayable before because the video would keep dropping all and I couldn't see where I was going or what might be shooting at me etc. But again, that seems corrected with the slight hardware mod to my OSSC and new FW loaded to it. Hover Strike CD was another that was pretty bac about video drop outs while playing. I haven't tested that one as yet. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5346937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 7:52 PM, -^CrossBow^- said: No feedback from others on this? Well, I guess it is moot now as I did the OSSC modification this weekend and updated my OSSC to FW 1.08. Wtih that I'm able to play all of the Dr. Typo games with the only issue now, being on the game Fallen Angels where the video will still occasionally dropout for a second but only during the launch sequence at the beginning of the level. Once that is done, the game seems to play fine without any issues while before it was kinda unplayable because the video would drop out so much while trying to play. So at least in the case of the Jaguar, the OSSD mod that allows the new firmware to work appears to have solved my issues on the Jaguar RGB output. Where did you find fw 1.08? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5347101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZarniwoop Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, 42bs said: Where did you find fw 1.08? The SD card image for version 1.08 is on the OSSC V1.XX series beta firmware post on VideoGamePerfection.com. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5347124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 hours ago, 42bs said: Where did you find fw 1.08? @MrZarniwoop posted the info, but you can't load up that FW on the OSSC until you have done the small modification to it first. And I believe that mod is only needed for the v1.6 version of the OSSC like mine was. It isn't possible on older versions and current ones come with the modification and new FW already loaded up on them. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5347206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Thanks, I will check my OSSC. I did not use it much because of the issues with 50Hz: It does not really sync. I hope, with this FW this is fixed. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5347219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I would like to do this mod, but is there better quality photos out there of removing R35 and soldering the wire in? https://videogameperfection.com/forums/topic/ossc-v1-xx-series-beta-firmware/ photos here are too low res. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5365194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Here are the photos from my OSSC. I had to use magnify light as the parts were so small. I used the following to build Jag profile https://www.firebrandx.com/OSSC/OSSC - Atari Jaguar Optimal Timing.txt I ended up using 4x mode, as 6x mode was too small on the TV screen. Text in Defender of the Crown is much improved. OSCC 1.0.8 firmware here: http://www.infocult.com/m/ossc/fw/v1-series/ 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Did you try it with 50Hz. That's where my OSSC has trouble to sync. 60Hz did work fine for me. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Only 60hz, as I'm in USA. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, grips03 said: Only 60hz, as I'm in USA. Well, I am in Germany but can switch between 50 and 60Hz. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I don't think they put that option in our TVs. I guess I could mod the Jag to add 50/60Hz, but I'm afraid my TV will be the limiting factor. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, grips03 said: I don't think they put that option in our TVs. I guess I could mod the Jag to add 50/60Hz, but I'm afraid my TV will be the limiting factor. Any modern TV which has HDMI should also be able to display 50Hz. Some even display 24Hz (cinema). But as developer I am more interested to be able to check both. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Yeah, my modern flat screen TV (I'm in the US) does 50hz and 60Hz just fine, including old 50Hz composite coming out of a modded Jaguar. I assume it's easier for them to just design one tuner/ADC/whatever that handles both these days, rather than make different HW for each market. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 6:21 PM, grips03 said: I would like to do this mod, but is there better quality photos out there of removing R35 and soldering the wire in? https://videogameperfection.com/forums/topic/ossc-v1-xx-series-beta-firmware/ photos here are too low res. Had you pinged me about this, I could have done this earlier and just didn't think about it. But here is mine? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 nice solder work. I'm getting too old Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5366989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, grips03 said: nice solder work. I'm getting too old We are probably close in age. But I've been having to do some small scale stuff like this on and off for the past year or so and in some cases, I've been doing stuff like this even when it wasn't needed just to hone and improve. I also wear a LOT of magnification so I can see what I'm doing more easily. One thing I have noticed about the newer FW that I'm not happy about is that they removed the ability to set the mask for vertical and horizontal setups? So as a result, I'm back to seeing some of the overscan stuff that I had profiles setup previously to hide this. There are some options for mask color and brightness but that's it and messing with those does nothing on the screen. So... yeah, that was a feature removed that I'm not sure I agree with. I've also not tested more to see if Jag games are actually working better for me now, but like you the 6x mode does work for me. But as my TV is still only a 1080P display, it shows that 1440P image smaller and doesn't scale it as it does with other resolutions within its actual spec'd range it supports. So I've been sticking with 5x or 4x in some cases. Edited December 14, 2023 by -^CrossBow^- typo corrections... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5367144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Anyone have the RetroTink 4K and Jaguar? I wonder how that will look. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/355157-jag-rgb-and-ossc-any-solutions-yet/#findComment-5367196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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