Ben from Plaion Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said: For V1.1 Rev1 it is correct, if it is the same for Rev2, I don't know, as I did not install it so far, hope to do it soon. Maybe others cant tell what is displayed for Rev2? Same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daorriss Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 @Ben from Plaion - I've installed the most recent updates.. but still see a lag with paddle games.. it wasn't until I compared notes with a redditor that I found the problem... The input signals from the paddle controllers are being digitally sampled which gives you a finite number of positions on the screen. I'm trying to play circus Atari on a 2600+ and it's incredibly difficult. You can count the number of steps it takes to get the springboard from one end of the screen to the other. 39 in total. On a regular 2600 it's many times that. Trying to finesse the paddle controller on any 2600+ game is going to be futile. Is there any way the number of samples on the paddle can be increased? Breakout is just as bad if not worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, daorriss said: Is there any way the number of samples on the paddle can be increased? Breakout is just as bad if not worse. See this discussion: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisG Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Do you know if there is compatibility support for the Video Touch Pad controller that came with the Star Raiders game? in this upcoming Firmware 1.1? Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, daorriss said: @Ben from Plaion - I've installed the most recent updates.. but still see a lag with paddle games.. it wasn't until I compared notes with a redditor that I found the problem... The input signals from the paddle controllers are being digitally sampled which gives you a finite number of positions on the screen. I'm trying to play circus Atari on a 2600+ and it's incredibly difficult. You can count the number of steps it takes to get the springboard from one end of the screen to the other. 39 in total. On a regular 2600 it's many times that. Trying to finesse the paddle controller on any 2600+ game is going to be futile. Is there any way the number of samples on the paddle can be increased? Breakout is just as bad if not worse. We are looking into the paddles stepping at the moment. Thanks for posting. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery3579 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I'm trying to install this update, but I can't seem to get my PC to recognize my 2600+. I can flash the dumper chip just fine, but the step after that I can't seem to get to work, specifically the "Emulator Part 1" step. I know I have the switches on the console itself correct, could it be a problem with my PC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, Fiery3579 said: I'm trying to install this update, but I can't seem to get my PC to recognize my 2600+. I can flash the dumper chip just fine, but the step after that I can't seem to get to work, specifically the "Emulator Part 1" step. I know I have the switches on the console itself correct, could it be a problem with my PC? Try different USB ports 2.0 and 3.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: We are looking into the paddles stepping at the moment. Thanks for posting. Hopefully it's fixable. Paddle games are a huge part of the 2600 experience. I haven't been following closely but has paddle support for 7800 games been addressed, for example super circus atariage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, MrChickenz said: Try different USB ports 2.0 and 3.0 😉 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboWesties Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Any idea how far off we are from the next firmware update? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsized Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, TurboWesties said: Any idea how far off we are from the next firmware update? Also, I was wondering are these the "official" firmware updates. I thought these were "testers" and there was going to be a more official firmware update available on the Atari website. Also, will the process get streamlined at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboWesties Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Would be nice if this next one had updates for the paddles, harmony/concerto carts, Champ’s games etc i know it’s a process but I’m hopeful we will get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwayne32 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) I am having issues updating to the newest firmware update. I followed all the steps for the first update and everything seemed to work fine until I get to the point of flashing the firmware in the last step. I open the RKDevTool.exe and it says Found one MASKROM device. I click on the upgrade firmware button and then the firmware button as the instructions say. I open file update - 012324 but nothing shows up in the white box on the right of the screen. In the device manager it shows Rockusb device and driver is 5.12...here is a screenshot of what I am seeing. Edited January 31 by Bwayne32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 23 minutes ago, TurboWesties said: Would be nice if this next one had updates for the paddles, harmony/concerto carts, Champ’s games etc i know it’s a process but I’m hopeful we will get there lol. thr paddles are something they are working on. harmony/concerto loading from the SD card won’t work with this device, period. same with Champ games that have ARM chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisG Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Does this version of the firmware 1.1 include compatibility with the Video Touch Pad that came with the game Star Raiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry0720 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2024 at 8:44 PM, MrChickenz said: Same thing happened to me! Try different USB ports 2.0 and 3.0. When I had device manager open I could see it detect and disappear intermittently. OK Thanks so much for the response I tried that and still nothing shows up. I think I may have gotten it to install via the .exe file, I am not too sure. When I have my system plugged into the computer the ROCKSUB shows up under devices and printers, but never under the device manager. When in devices and printers I can go under advanced, but the update driver is grayed out, but it does show a driver date of April 2022. Should this be the correct one? I have no idea. This is so frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 40 minutes ago, Bwayne32 said: I am having issues updating to the newest firmware update. I followed all the steps for the first update and everything seemed to work fine until I get to the point of flashing the firmware in the last step. I open the RKDevTool.exe and it says Found one MASKROM device. I click on the upgrade firmware button and then the firmware button as the instructions say. I open file update - 012324 but nothing shows up in the white box on the right of the screen. In the device manager it shows Rockusb device and driver is 5.12...here is a screenshot of what I am seeing. There seems to just be some kind of font display issue between rkdevtool and your windows system. If you have another windows system, try that. If not, I'd personally just do it blind, and hit "Upgrade" button. You should immediately hear more beeps as the device gets reset and then you can wait another 2 or 3 minutes. The nice thing about the 2600+ is the emulator firmware update gets done in MASKROM mode (a bare-metal bootloader baked into the chip) so you can't hard-brick it with an update. If it fails and the console has problems, you can repeat the process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, LuisG said: Does this version of the firmware 1.1 include compatibility with the Video Touch Pad that came with the game Star Raiders? Not yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, John Stamos Mullet said: lol. thr paddles are something they are working on. harmony/concerto loading from the SD card won’t work with this device, period. same with Champ games that have ARM chips. Would be nice if I could at least play some of the major titles for the 2600 like Keystone Kapers, Pitfall, H.E.R.O and some others that are lagging and or disappearing sprites! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Bwayne32 said: I am having issues updating to the newest firmware update. I followed all the steps for the first update and everything seemed to work fine until I get to the point of flashing the firmware in the last step. I open the RKDevTool.exe and it says Found one MASKROM device. I click on the upgrade firmware button and then the firmware button as the instructions say. I open file update - 012324 but nothing shows up in the white box on the right of the screen. In the device manager it shows Rockusb device and driver is 5.12...here is a screenshot of what I am seeing. You then have to click Upgrade button one more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Would be nice if I could at least play some of the major titles for the 2600 like Keystone Kapers, Pitfall, H.E.R.O and some others that are lagging and or disappearing sprites! It's odd, those games play just fine on my Plus. Clearly there must be more than one version of the Plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, LS650 said: It's odd, those games play just fine on my Plus. Clearly there must be more than one version of the Plus. Yes, or something is different in the software settings, or the CPU are running at different speeds??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry0720 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/30/2024 at 9:06 AM, Ben from Plaion said: Same I tried installing the driver update several times via device manager, but still nothing shows up. I've even used different USB 2 and 3 ports, still nothing. I think I may have gotten it to install via the .exe file, I am not too sure. When I have my system plugged into the computer the ROCKSUB shows up under devices and printers, but never under the device manager. When in devices and printers I can go under advanced, but the update driver is grayed out, but it does show a driver date of April 2022. Should this be the correct one? I have no idea. This is so frustrating When I turn on my 2600+ I see version 1.1 and underneath that it says Stella 6.7 Is this correct? I'm so lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwayne32 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, RevEng said: There seems to just be some kind of font display issue between rkdevtool and your windows system. If you have another windows system, try that. If not, I'd personally just do it blind, and hit "Upgrade" button. You should immediately hear more beeps as the device gets reset and then you can wait another 2 or 3 minutes. The nice thing about the 2600+ is the emulator firmware update gets done in MASKROM mode (a bare-metal bootloader baked into the chip) so you can't hard-brick it with an update. If it fails and the console has problems, you can repeat the process. Thanks for the help, I followed your advice and everything seemed to work. It says it updated and when I plug a game in and turned it on it says ver. 1.1 stella 1.67 in the bottom right. I am just now having problems with jr. pacman. It is not wanting to load every time now. I will give it a good cleaning again and go from there. Everything else I threw at it seemed to play great though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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