+jeremiahjt Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Did everybody see the news about the Tempest 3000 reprint for the Nuon? Looks like Songbird Productions and Atari are working together, that is nice to see. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MattelAquarius Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I still have my Extiva in its box, and almost all the original release games. Are there alternate ways to play Nuon games these days? I'm wondering what the market is for this, if it's still limited to the old run of Nuon DVD players. Gosh, I realize I'm about to go down a rabbit hole as I start googling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The emulator (Nuance) has gotten good enough most people can play T3K with the sound disabled. Some people still see it crash almost immediately, some can even play with sound on. In all cases, you better have the fastest CPU in the land for playable framerates. It's under active development though, which is a better situation than things were for a long time from my understanding. Ultimately though, the unfortunate reality is you still really want one of the old DVD players if you want to play this or other Nuon games. T3K is of course platform-exclusive to this day, and as much a gem as T2K, with opinions varying on which is better (They are certainly different enough games that you can like both for what they are, as I do). The other Nuon games probably aren't essential to anyone's library (I think all the other games are available on other platforms in some form, though Iron Soldier 3 for Nuon is without a doubt the superior version), but once you have a Nuon, you might as well try them out too. If you like Jaguar games, you'll like Nuon games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I also figured everyone with a Nuon already has Tempest 3000. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedalya Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, thanatos said: I also figured everyone with a Nuon already has Tempest 3000. I don't. Looking forward to this! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Same. The games are rarer than the players by far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, cubanismo said: Same. The games are rarer than the players by far. 1 hour ago, Gedalya said: I don't. Looking forward to this! Ah, I bought my player years ago from ebay with some games bundled. I apologize for my incorrect assumption! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 hours ago, thanatos said: I also figured everyone with a Nuon already has Tempest 3000. I would say there's a huge difference between "having" Tempest 3000 and "owning" Tempest 3000. It'll probably feel better if it didn't have TDK written on it 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor_shred Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 This is great news. I finally tracked down a Samsung Nuon Dvd player last year and Tempest 3k has been top of my want list since. Good luck Songbird in getting this out ASAP. I'll be buying it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas-Prime Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 hours ago, thanatos said: I also figured everyone with a Nuon already has Tempest 3000. I do, but its sealed and Im never opening it as it was a gift from my wife and I can't bring myself to break teh seal. I will be buying this reprint as my "Daily Driver" Version of Tempest 3000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Great news, sadly I no longer own a NUON. Still kick myself for not buying a stack when the NUONs were on clearance for $60. Last 2 I owned the lasers died so I sold it off as spare parts. Aren't the controllers even more rare or did someone come up with a solution for that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Helper Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Songbird sells a N64 controller adaptor for NUON but he is out right now. Original controllers are still rare and expensive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2024 at 4:23 PM, The Helper said: Songbird sells a N64 controller adaptor for NUON but he is out right now. Original controllers are still rare and expensive. I wonder why they picked that? They're a wearing out as it is, you'd think PlayStation would have made more sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, danny_galaga said: I wonder why they picked that? They're a wearing out as it is, you'd think PlayStation would have made more sense... https://www.nuon-dome.com/stealthre.html 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 26 minutes ago, CyranoJ said: https://www.nuon-dome.com/stealthre.html Funnily enough, when Rare were developing Goldeneye for the N64, there was no system yet, and THEY used hacked Saturn controllers 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I know that having Tempest 3000 being re-released on the Nuon is very cool, but no joke i would absolutely love to see a new version of Tempest 2000 with the unused tracks that were left out due to memory constrains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 hours ago, danny_galaga said: I wonder why they picked that? They're a wearing out as it is, you'd think PlayStation would have made more sense... Besides the near-perfect button mapping, there are also infinite knock-off N64 controllers on eBay, in all sorts of form factors and for very low prices (I think I got a seller offer for $9.95 w/shipping the other day on one of the ones I already bought), and in any color you could want. All the ones I've tried work great (arguably better than actual original N64 controllers or Nuon controllers) with the Songbird Aries64 adapter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, cubanismo said: Besides the near-perfect button mapping, there are also infinite knock-off N64 controllers on eBay, in all sorts of form factors and for very low prices (I think I got a seller offer for $9.95 w/shipping the other day on one of the ones I already bought), and in any color you could want. All the ones I've tried work great (arguably better than actual original N64 controllers or Nuon controllers) with the Songbird Aries64 adapter. That's a good point. It only has to work well on the Nuon. Most of the knock offs suck ass on an N64 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardX Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, danny_galaga said: That's a good point. It only has to work well on the Nuon. Most of the knock offs suck ass on an N64 😄 Low poly low-res textured ass at that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I've got a Samsung Nuon and then an original controller (thank god) but its an HPI Warrior which looks like a battarang and doesn't the thumbstick like the HPI Stealth or what the N64 would do with the adapter as the N64 controllers have that thumbstick. I want to say tho you can basically play all of the games except for Freefall 3050AD that's the only one that needs to have that stick to actually be able to move and play. I've tried Freefall with the Warrior controller and it doesn't move at all so I feel it needs that stick. The think I like the least about the Nuon is there was never a memory card made for it, so you can't save any high scores on Tempest 3000 or progress on any of the other games. That's something I wouldn't mind seeing be made. With regards to Tempest 3000, I didn't think it was all too great, it was very blurry and not crisp like Tempest 2000, then the lack of high score savings was the other killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/25/2024 at 3:25 PM, UHATEIT said: With regards to Tempest 3000, I didn't think it was all too great, it was very blurry and not crisp like Tempest 2000, I wonder why the games were blurry on the Nuon. The dvds looked great… but the games always looked like I was playing them in composite video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GrizzLee said: I wonder why the games were blurry on the Nuon. The dvds looked great… but the games always looked like I was playing them in composite video. I have mine connected with components since the Nuon also accepts component cables. Tried it on a nice CRT and on an LCD TV and it always came out looking fuzzy and blurry. I honestly prefer Tempest 2000 on the Jag or Tempest 4000 on the VCS or Switch. Edited March 30 by UHATEIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 25 minutes ago, GrizzLee said: I wonder why the games were blurry on the Nuon. The dvds looked great… but the games always looked like I was playing them in composite video. Set filtering to vaseline, sir. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cubanismo Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/29/2024 at 5:39 PM, GrizzLee said: I wonder why the games were blurry on the Nuon. The dvds looked great… but the games always looked like I was playing them in composite video. I don't consider the games fuzzy or blurry. Tempest 3K is, IIRC, because it runs at half-res and Minter made an artistic choice to do some sort of anti-aliasing (Maybe just bilinear filtering for the upscaling, I don't know). I think it's the same thing he went for with the VLM-2, where he wanted no visible pixels (http://minotaurproject.co.uk/vlm.php), and I think the VLM generally runs at half res or less too, and hence also looks blurry, but again, not because Nuon is blurry, rather because the author preferred it that way. Iron Soldier 3, FreeFall 3050 A.D., Ballistic, Merlin Racing, The Next Tetris, and Space Invaders all look as crisp as they do on other systems (Crisper in the case of IS3). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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