vanman Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Is it true there is a built in asteroids game in the 7800? If yes, why make a cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Asteroids is only built-in the PAL 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Pac Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 According to Enter magazine from 1984. The US model was to have Pole Posiston 2 built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 According to Enter magazine from 1984. The US model was to have Pole Posiston 2 built in. But it wasn't supposed to be built-in until September 1984. I actually don't see why Atari Corp didn't make Pole Position II built-in the system. That decision could have saved them some money making the cart shells and labels, then they could have spend that money towards developing more new games for the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2600 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Maybe a proto system exists out there or something. It's quite possible. Then again, if it was scheduled for 1984, the crash probably killed it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Maybe a proto system exists out there or something. It's quite possible. Then again, if it was scheduled for 1984, the crash probably killed it off. I wouldn't be suprised if a proto BIOS chip was out there. Curt mentioned a while ago that he had a proto 7800 BIOS but not what was different about it, maybe he'll see this thread and give us some info. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 The thread has been seen, lemme pull out the 2 April 84' 7800's I have and read in the BIOS chips from them, I'll post them and lets see what we shall see :-) Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Pac Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 We are all 7800 collectors here in this forum. We all know the story that once the game crash happen that Atari put all the 7800 stuff into storage. Besides who can figure out what was going on at Atari at that time, not the employees thats for sure I knew a few back then and you think we're confused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Best Electronics, at one time, sold the NTSC Bios chip. I modded one of my 7800's with it and sure as heck, Asteroids comes up. It is kind of nice to. Usually if a 2600 game won't work, crashes (dirty contacts.. what not) Asteroids comes up instead of the machine screeching at you. -Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I have a box of 7800 NTSC bios somewhere that I have been hanging on to since 1993. I'm goign to take them out and see if anything is any different. Most likely not, but it's worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Best Electronics, at one time, sold the NTSC Bios chip. I modded one of my 7800's with it and sure as heck, Asteroids comes up. It is kind of nice to. Usually if a 2600 game won't work, crashes (dirty contacts.. what not) Asteroids comes up instead of the machine screeching at you. -Lee Lee, I believe you are thinking of the PAL BIOS chip which is actually not PAL only but auto-detecting. It's either PAL or NTSC depending on which system it's in. And yes, I think Best still has them. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 What other cool games do you think you would have liked to have seen built in to the 7800? I always was jealous of the British and wanted a built in game! *shruggs* I have always thought that Food Fight would have made an -awesome- title that could have been built in. Very addictive, very unique, and very fun. It really highlighted what the 7800 was capable of. Just compare the graphics of Charley as compared to those of Mario on the NES. And look at all the sprites that are moving around the screen at one time. So what would you guys have liked to see on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanman Posted November 5, 2003 Author Share Posted November 5, 2003 I would like to see tower toppler, or maybe a few 2600 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would like to see tower toppler, or maybe a few 2600 games. Dude, Tower Toppler WAS released on the 7800. Check the rarity guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would like to see tower toppler, or maybe a few 2600 games. Dude, Tower Toppler WAS released on the 7800. Check the rarity guide. Oops! I didn't see Ferris' post above yours. Stupid me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie3 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 The 32 in 1 would have been nice or maybe Tempest or Black Widow (something new to the home consoles). A killer app like SMB but something done Atari style like Toobin' or something. Does any one know if I am able to just replace the stock 7800 BIOS chip with one of these Asteroids chips or do I have to mod the board in any way?? Sounds like a cool little thing to add to a 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Tyler Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Based on the history of the 7800, my thinking is maybe they were planning to have Pole Position II built into the system, but just before the system could be released, Jack Tramiel shelved it, and when it was finally released, they simply decided to release it as a cartridge instead of built in since they didn't have a lot of time. That's just my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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