Tempest Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I was always under the impression that there was only one EA prototype in existence and that was the one that was released at CGE back in the early 2000's. There appears to be a second one however: https://www.ebay.com/itm/156401343792 Other than the stickers over the EPROMs they look the same. I thought maybe the old stickers had been removed and replaced for some reason, but if you look at the position of the resistors on the right side you'll see they're different than the CGE one: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/elevator/elevatorproto.htm . I wonder if this version is different? Any idea who the seller is? They have a lot of prototypes that I've either reviewed or owned at one point. I'm curious as to who it is. They also have the 5200 Muppet Go Round proto up for sale which to my knowledge has never been dumped. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafAtariFromKansas Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 C1 - C4 are capacitors, not resistors... Last 2 ones at right looks like they are zener diodes.. Why someone put ATARIPROTOS.COM on box⁉️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, DeafAtariFromKansas said: C1 - C4 are capacitors, not resistors... Last 2 ones at right looks like they are zener diodes.. Why someone put ATARIPROTOS.COM on box⁉️ Yes you're right, they're Zener diodes. No idea on why they put my website on the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB5200 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 14 minutes ago, Tempest said: Yes you're right, they're Zener diodes. Those are not necessarily zener's, but rather glass cased capacitors, as the pcb states. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 36 minutes ago, Tempest said: No idea on why they put my website on the box. Design by @Marc Oberhäuser. Maybe he knows more about the Box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafAtariFromKansas Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 30 minutes ago, RB5200 said: Those are not necessarily zener's, but rather glass cased capacitors, as the pcb states. Thanks, that's confirmed it is Glass cased capacitors. which I don't know they are still existed.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 16 minutes ago, DeafAtariFromKansas said: Thanks, that's confirmed it is Glass cased capacitors. which I don't know they are still existed.. Oh wow interesting. i wonder if the prototype is any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amidarman Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Buy it and find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 2 hours ago, amidarman said: Buy it and find out. While reasonably priced, it's still a bit rich for my blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 9/21/2024 at 3:45 AM, Tempest said: Yes you're right, they're Zener diodes. No idea on why they put my website on the box. Connection to AtariProtos: I had made individual “loaner” boxes for my prototypes in my collection and wanted to add a short description and the best reviews for Protos are yours . When I sold my prototypes I sold the boxes them with those boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 5 hours ago, Marc Oberhäuser said: Connection to AtariProtos: I had made individual “loaner” boxes for my prototypes in my collection and wanted to add a short description and the best reviews for Protos are yours . When I sold my prototypes I sold the boxes them with those boxes. Ah that explains it then. Do you know who the seller is by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 2 hours ago, Tempest said: Ah that explains it then. Do you know who the seller is by any chance? Nope, cannot remember to whom I sold it. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Marc Oberhäuser said: Nope, cannot remember to whom I sold it. 😕 So this was your EA prototype? Or did you just sell the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) 13 hours ago, Tempest said: So this was your EA prototype? Or did you just sell the box? I did those boxes only for my protos. That were just a few of them... Edited September 23 by Marc Oberhäuser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I dont like how there are no stickers on the EPROMs, even protos in shells usually have them with typed or written text. What are the chances this was made out of an extra pcb from Best Electronics or something with the ROM that is available? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 43 minutes ago, Wickeycolumbus said: I dont like how there are no stickers on the EPROMs, even protos in shells usually have them with typed or written text. What are the chances this was made out of an extra pcb from Best Electronics or something with the ROM that is available? I've only seen that weird style EPROM board on a handful of SARA chip prototypes like EA and Desert Falcon. I don't believe that they were available from Best but I could be wrong. The lack of stickers isn't necessarily a sign of a copy. I've seen many legit protos without them, but I'll admit that most Atari inc/corp protos had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago On 9/24/2024 at 9:09 AM, Tempest said: I've only seen that weird style EPROM board on a handful of SARA chip prototypes like EA and Desert Falcon. I don't believe that they were available from Best but I could be wrong. The lack of stickers isn't necessarily a sign of a copy. I've seen many legit protos without them, but I'll admit that most Atari inc/corp protos had them. I've had 2 legit protos of Shooting Arcade and both came on those SARA boards. Only person I knew of that had any unpopulated SARA proto boards was Curt Vendel many years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Shawn said: I've had 2 legit protos of Shooting Arcade and both came on those SARA boards. Only person I knew of that had any unpopulated SARA proto boards was Curt Vendel many years ago. On that weird 'triangular' one? The Shooting Arcade proto I had was on the larger more common SARA board: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/shootingarcade/91889.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tempest said: On that weird 'triangular' one? The Shooting Arcade proto I had was on the larger more common SARA board: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/shootingarcade/91889.htm Sorry, it was on the board you showed in the link. The boards are just a little too tall to fit in a 2600 cartridge shell as well. I had a clear case for one and had to modify the shell for it to fit (and remove the center post). Both protos had typed stickers. Edited 4 hours ago by Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Shawn said: Sorry, it was on the board you showed in the link. The boards are just a little too tall to fit in a 2600 cartridge shell as well. I had a clear case for one and had to modify the shell for it to fit (and remove the center post). Both protos had typed stickers. Thought so. I've only seen this board used once or twice. I'm not a hardware guy so I don't know what the differences are between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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