SS Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Does anyone know which label version was released first? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 The bottom silver label version was first. The upper grey label variant was the latter...can tell by the cart design and most likely lack of a dust cover on your grey label version. Atari did away with the dust covers on the carts starting sometime around 86 officially during the revival of the 2600 and the release (Finally) of the 7800. Although many have reported that some 84 made carts are dust coverless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 Thanks. That's what I was thinking but wanted to know for sure. The one that I currently own is a severely damaged second version and I'm looking to replace it with the original. I had forgotten about how bad it was until today because I've only been playing Rhindle's hack recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Thanks. That's what I was thinking but wanted to know for sure. The one that I currently own is a severely damaged second version and I'm looking to replace it with the original. I had forgotten about how bad it was until today because I've only been playing Rhindle's hack recently. Alright, why the crap do later 2600 carts and 7800 carts have those holes on the front label? That just annoys me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 It's a change in the manufacturing style. Either for cost or convenience they stopped making a plastic mold that had a perfectly flat surface - instead the punch holes you find on mid-to-late 80's carts are where the labels were applied over that new shell where there is no plastic underneath in the upper left and right hand corners. It's damn near scary how uniformly consistant they can all look if you get a lot from what was one owner at the same time, because the wear really does tear, especially when there was not much care for their value back then and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 OK, so I won an original version (plus instructions) on eBay last night for $3 and change. Now the big question is "What do I do with my old one?". It would seem wrong to simply just throw it away but, on the other hand, who would actually want it? It's not of the type that AA can use for repros, either. Questions, questions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhindle The Red Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 OK, so I won an original version (plus instructions) on eBay last night for $3 and change. Now the big question is "What do I do with my old one?". It would seem wrong to simply just throw it away but, on the other hand, who would actually want it? It's not of the type that AA can use for repros, either. Questions, questions ... Design and print your own replacement label. That's what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 The bottom silver label version was first. The upper grey label variant was the latter...can tell by the cart design and most likely lack of a dust cover on your grey label version. Atari did away with the dust covers on the carts starting sometime around 86 officially during the revival of the 2600 and the release (Finally) of the 7800. Although many have reported that some 84 made carts are dust coverless. Hmmm. Interesting. I just looked at my copy again. It has the later release, gray label, with no holes. It has a dustcover: the kind with a spring on each side and a single split opening the full width of the cart( you can push it in easily with your finger ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 I just looked at my copy again. It has the later release, gray label, with no holes. It has a dustcover: the kind with a spring on each side and a single split opening the full width of the cart( you can push it in easily with your finger ). The amount of cart variations out there just continues to amaze me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hmmm. Interesting. I just looked at my copy again. It has the later release, gray label, with no holes. It has a dustcover: the kind with a spring on each side and a single split opening the full width of the cart( you can push it in easily with your finger ). My SILVER label mario has the same kind of dust cover. (the type that doesn't lock when out of the system) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Do what I do, keep the nice one put up, and play the trashy looking one. Or give it to me so I can do that LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 Design and print your own replacement label. That's what I do. Great idea! I did this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Holy crap, why don't mine look like that? It that on photo paper glued to the cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 Yup. I smeared the ink though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 What program did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 What program did you use? "Corel Photo House" and "Microsoft Photo Editor". I'm too cheap to buy "Photoshop". It's the first one that I've really spent a lot of time on; mostly I've just done end labels. I still see a few mistakes, though. Some of the printing at the bottom looks a little sloppy and the label seems just a hair small. I'll have to buy some more paper and see if I can clean it up a bit more. Still, not too bad if I say so myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Sweet, a red lable Mario, now you got something rare LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Oh, that is probly why mine look so bad. (someone edited my message ) I did have a lot more here about my software, but someone didn't like it I guess. PM me and tell me why. All I use is crappy freeware off the internet DOWN WITH PIRATED SOFTWARE (hint, hint) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhindle The Red Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Very nice red label! Got inspired by the idea myself. Here's mine. (The .zip file has a .bmp of the image suitable for printing.) mario_bros.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2600 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I have the newer version and it looks pretty good..the label that is. I also played Return of Mario Bros. Looks a bit better than the original, Rhindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Fe interesting things here about the newer sytle carts with the holes. you do realize where the plastic that used to be in those holes is at don't you? Take a good look at the pegs on the cart that push in the dust cover on the 2600 units themselves. Notice anything odd about them? Basically what Atari did was to save costs further they molded the cart shells and then on the flat half they punched the two notches out, which would later become the pegs of the same cart. I guess it was a further way to reduce the costs of materials just a bit more. Also on the dust covers, the hybrids as I call them, have a standard 2600 dust cover. But Atari, again saving costs, didn't want to have to keep track of the narrow and wider edge covers which would be used between the 2600 and 7800 pcbs. So what Atari did, was to cut out the dust cover center so that it didn't matter what the cart was for 2600 or 7800 as the same dust covers could then be used. This was done until the dust cover supply ran out, to which the notched holes turned into pegs carts started to appear. So that grey label Mario Bros. with the wide opening dust cover is most likely from the 85 - early 86 era when the old parts were getting used up. That is the same era where quality control seems to be damn near non existent given all the labeling errors put out during this time hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Got inspired by the idea myself. Here's mine. I’m loving the movie influenced design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddawg Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I’m loving the movie influenced design! Ya It is cool. That was a neat movie when it came out, to bad it didn't do very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uosipa llamxew Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Needed a break from my homework... so I thought I'd try my luck at a Mario Bros label. I'm not really sure why everyone is holding a cigarette, but it was fun to draw. They look like Rednecks too. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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