Mendon Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I'm curious... does owning the 7800 version of a game ruin the fun of playing the 2600 version of the same game for you? For example, I've been on a Mario Bros. kick lately and have been playing the heck out of the 7800 version. Just for fun, I plugged in the 2600 version and found that I couldn't play that version anymore since the 7800 is so much better, in my opinion. Same with Joust and Dig Dug. So I'm curious to find out if once you have the 7800 version of a game, do you go back and ever play the 2600 version much? Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cootster Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Eh . . . The 2600 version of Mario Bros. is unplayable anyway. I think I'd prefer a Microvision or Altair version over it . . . And as for most others, no, not unless the game was horrid on the 2600. Dig Dug and Joust, IMO, are basically just as good, only prettier on the 7800 . . . And their many ripoffs (Robby Roto for Dig Dug, Xonox' Sir Lancelot (2600) for Joust, and others) are also good . . . Those concepts are unkillable, IMO . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcostin Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I may prefer one or the other, but I'm usually able to enjoy each system's version on their own terms. Part of the fun with the 2600, after all, is seeing how close they were able to get to the arcade look and gameplay within the system's limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 7800 versions all ruin the 2600 versions for me. The only games made for both systems were arcade conversions (and sports games), so the real standard to compare them to is the arcade original anyway. Most of the 2600 versions were only passable anyway. As for Mario Bros. in particular, I loathe the 2600 version. I don't even own the 7800 version. If I want to play this game I just fire up MAME, but I was never that good at it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyranthraxus Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Well I was playing 2600 Mario the other day. It had been a year since I tried it and while the detail of mario is good the game is not very playable. The controls are frustrating. I havn't got the 78 version but I'm pretty sure its a lot better, it can't be any worse! Pretty much all 7800 arcade games are done very well and the idea of playing them on the 2600 is not really an option any more. A more harder question is 5200 vs 7800. Especially for the 5200 games that can use the roller controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Yes, the debate over 5200 vs. 7800 is a good one. I think in most cases the 5200 versions win. I actually like the 5200 joysticks BETTER than the abominable ProLine joysticks the 7800 came with. In general, 5200 versions of games just feel smoother, and the controls are less stiff than on their 7800 counterparts. There are exceptions though... I think 5200 Dig Dug is ugly. As far as gameplay goes, I actually think the 2600 version of Dig Dug is the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Pac Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 It really doesn't matter if its Mario Bros or some other arcade hit such as Double Dragon. Some if not most 2600 versions of 7800 titles are virtually unplayable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I think the ultimate unplayable 2600 game in this group has to be Donkey Kong Junior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcprs1 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 I think the ultimate unplayable 2600 game in this group has to be Donkey Kong Junior! I don't think DK jr is that bad for the 2600. Granted, it is not that great graphically, it can be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 What about Dark Chambers for the 2600? That stinkbomb doesn't even get within a light-year of the 7800's version. The only thing that carried over from the 7800 to the 2600 were the lousy sound effects. I don't play Desert Falcon on the 2600 anymore, I will automatically go for the 7800 version. The gameplay is the same between them, but I only have the 7800 hooked up, so I might as well play games designed for the 7800 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 What about Dark Chambers for the 2600? That stinkbomb doesn't even get within a light-year of the 7800's version. The only thing that carried over from the 7800 to the 2600 were the lousy sound effects. The 7800 version is boring enough, but the 2600 version is absolutely terrible! (I do like the garbage man though... ) Give me NES Gauntlet any day of the week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 One area where I prefered the 2600 version: WINTER GAMES. The 7800 version has much better graphics, but the 2600 version has more events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 What do you mean Mario bros is unplayable?! I just got through playing it last night. Now granted, the 7800 version probably plays better (dont have it, so don't know) But I love Mario Bros for the 2600, and have quiet often rolled the score. Last night, I even rolled the level number, cause I just realized I never did it befor and wanted to see what happened (level 00 is a collect the coins level BTW) I'll admit it has it's problems, I think the fireball and ghost appear way to often, and you slide even when the floors not frozen (at a faster speed than you can run at no less) And they only have one enemy per level at once (counting stuff coming from the pipes) You can't stand on the Pow switch (if you have it still) and it seems to be way to easy to hit the floor when your trying to jump up. But it's not unplayable by any stretch. My only real complaint about the game is it never speeds up (or isn't noticable) on levels over 24. That, and it slows back down when you roll the level. To answer the topics question though. It depends on the game. DigDug. I'm as likely to fire up 2600 Dig Dug as I am to fire up 7800. I like them both, my complaint on the 7800 is it uses the exact same music on the 2600, just doesn't have to recycle the whole tune when you preform an action. Both play great, and that's the important part. Graphics are the only real deciding factor. Donkey Kong/JR. I actually play both of these, I know people say the game sucks major ass on the 2600, but I grew up with the game and like it just fine. I think the 7800 does play better, and has more levels anyway, so I do actually play the 7800 one more if I'm playng through the 7800. Joust. Some of the physics are funky on the 2600 version (the eggs go up instead of down?) Over all, it's a lot harder, and the flicker can be annoying. I definately like the 7800 version better in this case. But the 2600's still a decent game. Kung Fu. I dunno, I just like the 2600 one better, maybe it's the whole "this system shouldn't do that" thing. But something annoyed me about the 7800 version. Their legs. Why are they striped, rather than using a complete sprite? Was it a weekness of the graphics engine? Or was it rushed and not finished? Galega(or Galaxian, always get the names mixed up) Love it on both systems. It's damn impressive on the 2600, especially with all the moving enemies on the higher levels. But I love the 7800 version cause you can get your ship abducted, and get it back for twin blasters (not in the 2600) Their both great games, but I quiet often play the 2600 version more. Is that all? I was thinking Pole Position, which I like on the 2600, but only Pole Position 2 was on 7800. Wonder if Gravitar is on the 7800? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 Thanks to all who have posted so far! Been interesting reading your responses. I did find one game that I enjoy equally on the 2600 and 7800 and thats Ms. Pac-Man. While the 7800 version looks more like the arcade, the 2600 version is extremely enjoyable also. Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 But the 7800's Ms. Pac Man was programmed by the guy who programmed the arcade game. Or at least hacked Pac Man and created a mod turning it into Ms. Pac Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Wonder if Gravitar is on the 7800? Nope, it doesn't exist. I'd like to see a 7800 Gravitar too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Probably the only game I'd still play on the 2600 despite it being better on the 7800 is Donkey Kong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mitchell Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Wonder if Gravitar is on the 7800? Nope, it doesn't exist. I'd like to see a 7800 Gravitar too... You gotta see John Dondzila's Gravitrex for the Vectrex! Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 But the 7800's Ms. Pac Man was programmed by the guy who programmed the arcade game. Or at least hacked Pac Man and created a mod turning it into Ms. Pac Man. Huh? Where does this information come from anyway? I can point out numerous descrepencies in the 7800 ms. pac-man gameplay that makes this hard for me to believe. If it is true, the programmer does not know his own game very well. Back on topic though what ruined it for me was when MAME came out, after playing the original arcade games just totally ruined it for me when it came to playing any 8-bit (aka 5200 games). Hard to go back when you've experienced the real thing. But I eventually got over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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