kevincal Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Well I was sitting there watching my VLM play a CD and switching around the fx banks, and my dad commented on how cool it was. It is really quite mesmerizing to sit and stare at all the cool effects it makes while listening to a favorite cd. Plus my dad used to be a hippie so he could appreciate the pschadelic roots of it. Anyone else impressed someone in the family or someone you know with it? Also, how does the VLM in the Jag cd compare to the one in the NUON. I'm guessing the NUON has no slowdown, more colors and sprites, and more banks of fx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lain Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 yep, my brother and myself we are sitting infront of the VLM every time some drum'n'bass or other bass-music is filling the room. The NUON VLM reacts much better to the music. And it really seems that the effects depends on the music, because effects doesn't repeat as frequently as on the Jaguar. Drum'n'Bass give different effects than an Ambient CD. Hmm, both VLM's are worth looking Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Smeghead Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Oh yeah, the Jag's VLM has impressed many of my friends and family. I let it run on random mode during parties, and I always get comments. It's the main reason my 55 year old brother bought his Jag, and the roundabout reason both my brothers recently picked up the Samsung Nuon. (And yes, they're both hippies too...gotta love them hippies! ) About the only negative comment I ever got was from my boss who, while sitting on my couch after having spewed all over my backyard (beer and Mudslides do NOT mix... word to the wise) was forced to stare at it while trying to recover. So, it's NOT good visuals when you're trying not to dry-heave. And yes, it was quite an evening. Heh. As for the comparison between Jag and Nuon VLM...I'll mostly leave that to people who actually own their own. I can say that the Nuon's a lot less pixelly, as you'd imagine, but it seemed kinda blurry/fuzzy looking to me. But I'd own one if I didn't already have 2 DVD players here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3V Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Here's a real video of the NUON's VLM2 in action: http://www.nuon-dome.com/movies/vlm.rm They're actually very different so it's kind of cool to have both around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 I'm a big fan of the VLM! I especially like it around this time of year, as I have a lot of Christmas music that I like to play using the VLM. My mother likes watching the VLM with the Christmas music, too. The NUON VLM is rather different from the Jaguar VLM, and they even vary from one NUON machine to another. For example, I have the Samsung DVD-N2000, which has plenty of effects, but doesn't have direct interaction with the effects (using the joypad) like the Jaguar or some of the other NUON machines have. I tend to use the NUON VLM more than the Jaguar VLM these days, but the Jag version still gets a fair amount of use from me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Thanks for all the replies. So it sounds like getting a NUON might be worth it. How many games were made in all for the system? The ones I know of are Merlins Racing, Tempest 3000, Freefall, and Space Invaders XL. Is that all of them? Also do the systems come with controllers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3V Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Thanks for all the replies. So it sounds like getting a NUON might be worth it. How many games were made in all for the system? The ones I know of are Merlins Racing, Tempest 3000, Freefall, and Space Invaders XL. Is that all of them? Also do the systems come with controllers? Add IS3, The Next Tetris and Ballistic and that's all the commercially released games. There are a bunch of downloadable games at NUON-Dome, like Doom, Pac Man, etc. Had to get the cheap plug in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Thanks for all the replies. So it sounds like getting a NUON might be worth it. How many games were made in all for the system? The ones I know of are Merlins Racing, Tempest 3000, Freefall, and Space Invaders XL. Is that all of them? Also do the systems come with controllers? Add IS3, The Next Tetris and Ballistic and that's all the commercially released games. There are a bunch of downloadable games at NUON-Dome, like Doom, Pac Man, etc. Had to get the cheap plug in there Ahh yes how could I forget IS 3. I have the Playstation version but I haven't played it much. I didn't know about the next tetris and ballistic or the others. I'll have to check out that site. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian M Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Ahh yes how could I forget IS 3. I have the Playstation version but I haven't played it much. I didn't know about the next tetris and ballistic or the others. I'll have to check out that site. Thanks The Next Tetris will take some searching and patience if you're interested in obtaining a copy. Took me some 5-6 months before I finally tracked down a new copy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grokk Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Thanks for all the replies. So it sounds like getting a NUON might be worth it. How many games were made in all for the system? The ones I know of are Merlins Racing, Tempest 3000, Freefall, and Space Invaders XL. Is that all of them? Also do the systems come with controllers? Add IS3, The Next Tetris and Ballistic and that's all the commercially released games. There are a bunch of downloadable games at NUON-Dome, like Doom, Pac Man, etc. Had to get the cheap plug in there I wasn't aware that IS3 was considered a commercial release. I have a copy, the one that was given away free because of bug issues that were never fixed. Since nuon was no longer, it made no since to put more time into it. It was really great that so much effort was given so that most die-hards could get there hands on IS3, which K3V was apart of, if I remember correctly. Yes most gracious and generous indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I just got IS3 for my Nuon a week or so ago, haven't even had a chance to play it I've been so busy on another project. I've been trying to get it for quite some time and finally decided to just pay the bucks.....It's new shrinkwrapped. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 not being lucky enough to own a nuon or track down a jag CD yet I'm having to hold out for the next-gen VLM in unity. christ on a bike that thing looks nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Got my IS3 from Kevin at the Nuon-Dome too. Not the boxed version that came out briefly, the plain disc with "demo" written on it with a marker. And I just got my copy of The Next Tetris, so other than the game Crayon Shin Chan that came with the South Korean Samsung Nuon player, i've now got all the officially published Nuon games. This has nothing to do with Nuon's or JagCD's VLM, but i'm proud of my collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grokk Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I just got IS3 for my Nuon a week or so ago, haven't even had a chance to play it I've been so busy on another project. I've been trying to get it for quite some time and finally decided to just pay the bucks.....It's new shrinkwrapped. Jason Its been awhile since I've looked at anything Nuon, but I think I do remember now, hearing that it had been released and then pulled off the shelf. Was another release done later that I'm not aware of, or just the original? I have an N2000 and an N501 and it crashes on both machines 50% of the time. Was the bug ever fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3V Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I just got done writing this story in a PM to Saturn IS3 was released briefly (complete with box, instructions, etc), but then was recalled because it would lock up on earlier NUON machines. In the interim, VM Labs contacted me to see if I would distribute the "flawed" disc-only copies of IS3 that they had sitting around the office, as a way of saying thanks to the NUON fanbase. I was told to write "Demo - Not for Resale" on all of them because they didn't want to hurt future sales of the game by giving the disc-only ones away, and so there wouldn't be any confusion on eBay, etc of people trying to pass them off as the corrected version. So the complete boxed copies are very hard to find, the disc-only copies a little less so. But neither is going to be easy to find, I can tell you that much And, despite saying "Demo" the disc-only copies are the complete game. -Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultravi0let Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 that vid looks very cool indeed..... but, i was hoping for something a little like winamp though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I just got done writing this story in a PM to Saturn And before reading the new posts in this thread, I reply with, "Do you still have disc only copies of IS3 available?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Helper Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I happen to have 2 of them. Send me an email if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I happen to have 2 of them. Send me an email if you are interested. On it's way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I happen to have 2 of them. Send me an email if you are interested. On it's way... Damn! Beat me to it... not that I even have my nuon set up at the moment, but I'd love to get an IS3 for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 that vid looks very cool indeed..... but, i was hoping for something a little like winamp though Come on, guys, winamp! It is nothing more than a very wide collection of spectrum analyzers in the style of the old PS visual thingy. VLM is rarely a spectrum analyzer, and very often the spec-an is just trigger for things, not just bumping LEDs. There are effects that are music controlled only in little elements, leaving the rest to human controlled or preorganized patterns. No, I wouldn't definetly compare VLM with ... well anything. The closer thing was Colourspace (years before), but it wasn't music driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 The closer thing was Colourspace (years before), but it wasn't music driven. Dont forget Trip-a-Tron, but I could never learn to get that much out of it, was too deep for me when I was ikkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Helper Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Tyrant - I said I have 2 of them. If you want to buy one of them send me an email as well. I just have to figure out how much to charge for them. I really need the money, they are extremely rare, but I don't want to gouge anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Cool Normally when someone says they have 2 of something it meens they want to keep one and sell the other. I'd love to offer you lots for it, but Im in debt and so probably wont be able to offer you as much as I should for it... anyways... pm time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I was inspired to play Iron Soldier 3 tonight. I have tried all my other Nuon games out on my new SD-2300, but not IS3. One thing that bothered the Hell out of me when playing on my N501 is that after a random amount of time, my N501 would just shut off. No reason, it would just switch itself off in the middle of a game. The SD-2300 has been running for a couple of hours, and it's going steady. Oh yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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