tiw Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 just to see how they did it. It has 10 games in it 4 AA batteries in the bottom, and power, reset, select and start switches on the front. I took it apart and there wasn't much inside. It has two chips under the black "blob" os stuff to seal the bare chip. One I assume handles the tia function and the other is probably ROM and game storage. It has 1 or 2 transistors , bunch of resistors and a few caps, that's it! I was thinking of Retrocon and his effort. If they casn do it in China, we should be able to do it also and better! I am still learning the hardware and unfortunately am not a programmer! The 10 in 1 joystick has one video and 1 audio cable coming out with RCA jacks. Games included are: Gravitar, asteroids, Realsports volleyball, Centipede, Adventure, Pong, Missile Command, Breakout, Yar's revenge, and Circus Atari. Actually the things works ok with pretty good joystick movement. http://www.jakkstvgames.com/ Now if someone smarter than I could figure out how to tap into this ting with a memory stick cartridge, a lot of the work is already done in this thing. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 from what ive heard off hand, its not an emulator, as that wouldve required a semi-hefty pc to handle (certainly something that would cost more than 20 bucks to mass produce). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonicgo Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 My g/f has one and plays it a lot. I'm just afraid her cousin will break the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 from what ive heard off hand, its not an emulator, as that wouldve required a semi-hefty pc to handle (certainly something that would cost more than 20 bucks to mass produce). Exactly right. None of these all-in-one controller game systems actually emulates the original code. That's why so many people have complained about their inaccuracies. Definitely the hardware isn't powerful enough to really do emulation. Naturally, someone COULD engineer a 2600's hardware into a form this small nowadays, but the R&D would be prohibitively expensive for a piece of hardware that sells for $20. So there's a somewhat standardized hardware system that runs in most of these, and the game code has to be ported/rewritten to work on this hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Speaking of Jakks, they won some kind of award at CES for their Namco and Atari joysticks. Has anyone heard if they've introduced new ones for CES or are these the same as last year? news story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Galaga Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I think the Namco one came out around Thanksgiving 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 My understanding from something I saw a while ago is that the games are pre-converted to run on a pseudo-emulator for a custom Graphics & Sound processor. In other words, the 6507 instruction conversion is done ahead of time, and the graphics and sound are handled in real time, reducing the CPU power needed (plus the sound emulation is poor). One blob is probably the hardware and the other is the ROM. -Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hmmm, I bought it in like September.... right around the same time as the Intellivision one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 One blob is probably the hardware and the other is the ROM. -Bry If it's anything like the Activision one, then the division is not so clear. The Activsion one has two blobs, the switch inputs clearly goto the one blob and the video and audio comes from the other. It's possible that one contains the audio/video hardware and the other contain processor, ROM and IO. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VidGameKing Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 they have one from intelivision, it's pretty cool too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The Intellivision one is just a NES with the Intellivision games crudely converted into NES games. The Jakks ones are.... something else, as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 How hard would it be to incorporate a socket for ROM chips where one chip could be swapped out to play another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanized Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Can someone go into some minor detail on the Activision and Intellivision TV Games joysticks? If they're worth a damn, what games are on them, price points, that sort of thing. I never saw those in my area, just the Atari and Namco releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbrit2 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The Intellivision one is just a NES with the Intellivision games crudely converted into NES games. Whoa, for real? That's just so freakishly cool that I'd probably be forced to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Can someone go into some minor detail on the Activision and Intellivision TV Games joysticks? If they're worth a damn, what games are on them, price points, that sort of thing. I never saw those in my area, just the Atari and Namco releases. The Activision one is a piece of garbage. The emulation on it is very poor, gameplay is awkward, and the fire buttons are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 How hard would it be to incorporate a socket for ROM chips where one chip could be swapped out to play another? As someone previously stated - it's not an emulator. Roms wouldn't do you any good. The code for all these games have been ported over to the custom "nes on a chip" engine, and very poorly at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsuinnc Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I saw a new one at Wal Mart yesterday. It looks like the A2600 joystick but is yellow and has Spong Bob's face on it. It plays 4 or 5 Sponge bob games that look about NES quality. Just thought I'd mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highinfidelity Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Just took a look at the website and the included titles. How in the hell could you play Circus Atari or Pong with a joystick? And the "Activision" unit includes "Atlantis"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongHit Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 ... The Activision one is a piece of garbage. The emulation on it is very poor, gameplay is awkward, and the fire buttons are terrible. Actually, Jakks has re-released the Activision version with a new joystick that's more like a real 2600 or arcade stick -- there's even a 2nd fire button on top of the stick: http://www.jakkstvgames.com/activision.html -PongHit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongHit Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Can someone go into some minor detail on the Activision and Intellivision TV Games joysticks? ... The Intellivision unit isn't made by Jakks... Apparently, the Intellivision one is XTRA lame. The Activision, Atari, & Namco ones aren't perfect for us hardcore folks -- but they're great as gifts for people who would appreciate a simple & fast way to get a retro fix. Details about the games here: http://www.jakkstvgames.com/ -PongHit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susuwatari Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Atlantis and several Imagic games was bought by Activision. So that's how. Paddle games like Circus was converted to use joysticks but it's just not the same. They should have used only joystick games and saved those for a 10-in-1 paddle system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 The Activision, Atari, & Namco ones aren't perfect for us hardcore folks -- but they're great as gifts for people who would appreciate a simple & fast way to get a retro fix. Actually they'd be perfect as a cheap gift for me... because I aint about to fork out $15+ for one But sure, I'd take one as a gift! I wouldn't mind having one of these at all (whether I'd actually play them is another story however). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 The Intellivision one is just a NES with the Intellivision games crudely converted into NES games. Whoa, for real? That's just so freakishly cool that I'd probably be forced to get one. And that, in a nutshell, was my reaction as well (and I was forced to get one. ) It is pretty shitty soundwise in particular, but hey, the Astrosmash is better than the one on my cell phone anyway I'm still looking forward to the individual games getting dumped so I can play them on my GBA NES emulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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