essell Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 i'm starting to consider picking up an amiga on ebay sometime, and one in particular that i've got my eye on doesn't come with a mouse. i seem to recall the controller ports being like mega drive ones... where could i get another mouse to use with it? i'm new btw - howdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijin Z Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 ebay. A search for "amiga mouse" should be productive. Kickstart and workbench diskettes are much harder to locate, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 You can buy a new mouse from http://www.softhut.com, they're around $20. Alternatively, you can purchase an adapter from the same place for about $35 that allows you to use standard PS/2 mice. What model are you looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Good choice with the Amiga... try to pick up an Amiga 1200 if possible, since it has the AGA chipset that a lot of the newer games need... it also has a built-in harddrive, so you hopefully won't have to worry about finding Workbench or any of that, since it should be installed already. As for a mouse, the Amiga uses it's own proprietary mouse, so you don't have a lot of options. From what I've heard, it's fairly simple to convert an Atari ST mouse to work with an Amiga, but Atari ST mice aren't really any easier to find I'm afraid. Another thing you should be aware of is that the classic Amiga mouse looks identical to Commodore's 1351 mouse, which was actually meant for the C-64... I'm almost certain that the 1351 is not compatible at all with the Amiga, so stay away from them (It should say "1351" somewhere on the bottom of the mouse, so make sure to check). Amiga mice show up in the thrift stores here from time to time, so you might want to check your local thrift stores to see if you can find any. Other than that, there's always eBay. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I didn't see that you were in England. For mice, etc, try www.eyetech.co.uk, or you can order from Versalia in Germany (I've had good luck with them) at http://www.vesalia.de/ Agreed though, the 1200/4000 are good models (and very expandable). If you just want to play old games, a basic 500 w/1.3 Kickstart would work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijin Z Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I got an MS Int Exp 3 optical mouse for $15 on ebay, shipping included in that figure. Do NOT pay more than that for an old mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I got an MS Int Exp 3 optical mouse for $15 on ebay, shipping included in that figure. Do NOT pay more than that for an old mouse. Without an adapter, he'd have a hard time using that on an Amiga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx1138 Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 If I haven't thrown it away, you can have my Amiga mouse. I have some mouses - or is it mice? For various systems in a box of junk. I got some ST's and Amiga's kicking around down stairs (been tidying my games room today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFairy321 Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 YES commodore amiga/c64/atari/sega have the same controller port and can be exchangable. ( Also for my coleco i usually take one controller out and plug in a normal atari one as they are better ) The only thing thats kept me out of the vintage computer collecting is reliablity issues with disk drives and tapes. ANyone care to shed some light on this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I've found that most of my disks (5.25") have worked just fine even after 16 years. There's a few that died, but it hasn't been many. Honestly, in terms of Amiga games, I've just been downloading the images and installing them on my 1200's harddrive and using the WHDLOAD'r to run them. No floppy disks necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Sad to say, but my brother has had a LOT of problems with deteriorating disks... in fact, for whatever reason, he's had more problems with his Amiga disks than I've had with all my C-64 disks. Go figure. The disk drives themselves should be alright, but old disks (like all magnetic media) can be unreliable. What you might want to do is try copying the entire disk over top of itself, that way any "weak" sectors will hopefully be brought back to full strength so that the disk can sustain another 10 years worth of use. Also, this should go without saying, but be sure to take care of your disks, and they'll last a lot longer... don't expose them to magnetic fields (don't put them on top of your monitor or anything like that), or moisture or anythign like that. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin' Kat Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 On comment about disks.... From my experience 5.25" floppies tend to hold data much longer than 3.5" floppies...none of the old 3.5" DD/SD floppies I find ever work... but I all the 5.25" DD/SD disks I've found have worked. Oh well, at least new 3.5" DD/SD floppies can still be ordered in bulk online. Also, used PS/2 mice are easily had for next to nothing because they are everywhere...they are common. Mice for systems that do not use PS/2 or USB mice are not as easy to locate and can tend to cost more because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFairy321 Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 thanks for the info,,but i will stay out of the vintage computer category, even though i would really like a c64 as i used to own one between 1986 and 1992. i think i will stick to emulators for my computers, as its not that much different than original c64 (the computer emulators seem more realistic when i front of a pc compared to console emulators) and ive put a big commodore badge on my pc case and keyboard. lol To me , its a C64 system, running windows in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx1138 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 YES commodore amiga/c64/atari/sega have the same controller port and can be exchangable. ( Also for my coleco i usually take one controller out and plug in a normal atari one as they are better ) Any idea why my Commodore Paddles will not work on my Atari? I've got a nice Quickshot stick, not sure which model it is, but on the base there is a switch with various settings MSX/Atari/SEGA/Amstrad or somesuch, it has become my joystick of choice now and I use it on many machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Do you mean the white VIC-20 paddles? I tried them on a 2600 once, and they work fine... however, they have a different range than the normal Atari paddles, so you can get some oddities in games. For example, in Video Olympics, I can't move the paddle all the way to the top of the screen with a VIC-20 paddle. Depending on how the game is programmed, it may or may not be an issue. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeV0 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 YES commodore amiga/c64/atari/sega have the same controller port and can be exchangable. ( Also for my coleco i usually take one controller out and plug in a normal atari one as they are better ) Any idea why my Commodore Paddles will not work on my Atari?. C64 Paddles seem to work %100 on my 2600's and 7800's. As for the Amiga, if u want cheap get an A600, they are much smaller then the 500 and come stock with 1mb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijin Z Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 The problem with emulating classic computers is that you're fucked for reading the original media most times. =_= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFairy321 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 my commodore paddles work on my pal 2600 fine on most games, but the calibration sensitivity setting is differnt than original atari paddles. they will work on most games fine, but on some like night driver, the sensitivity is too slow, and u cant really play. ok on breakout though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFairy321 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 i just had an idea....... since the atari controllers work on my coleco, i will try to plug in my coleco controller nto the atari and play star raiders as i dont have the video touch pad..... hang on a sec......... DAMN in dont work!!!!!!!!! which is odd as i get more response when i plug in a sega megadrive controller in port 2 (still cant play though ) which is a shame actually as ive been hanging to play star raiders for bloody LONG tome now...hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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