Shortly Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I thought spam was messages posted all across the borads of an unsolicited commercial advert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Is there any way in which we can control spammers from these boards. I notice one user as having 220 posts already and he/she joined on the 9th!!! That must mostly be spam but this user isn't the only one to have done this as we all know. I'm gonna drop the name-bomb. I noticed all the uneccessary posts, too. Such as "thanx for the info" and "that's funny lol thanks" atari_wizard Joined: 09 May 2004 Total posts: 247 [0.04% of total / 27.44 posts per day] Near 30 posts a day! Dear god... Why don't the two of you get off your high horses? You've both posted your share of crap just like everyone else here. It's nice to see people giving a such a warm welcome to a new member. I've read through his posts and not ONE of them is spiteful or hurtful to anyone. Unless someone's going out of their way to flame another member or hijacking multiple threads and replying to themselves, I don't see what the big deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortly Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I've read through his posts and not ONE of them is spiteful or hurtful to anyone. Unless someone's going out of their way to flame another member or hijacking multiple threads and replying to themselves, I don't see what the big deal is. Did I just spam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kialan Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 We have different personal definitions of spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Did I just spam? not sure..... lets run it through the spam formula and see what the results show up as... seconding with smiley a legitimate comment on spam + thread about spam = :!: error code 59AM - term 'seconding with smiley' detected in spam formula..... result.... not spam but also not non-spam, result: free posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I cant edit my posts, so I'll have to spam instead A differant board I'm a member of has recently introced a minimum on the number of characters per post, I think its set to 20. This has obviously resulted in a drastic reduction of the smiley only posts Shortly demonstrated. Used in moderation the smiley only post is OK IMO, but it easily gets out of hand and abused to increase post count/stats. Rest assured if I ever administer a forum, this minimum character limit feature will be active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari_wizard Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 okay, i am an adult here. i didn't realize it was that big of an issue. i usually spend most of my day on the computer anyways. i just love atari and am not looking to make any enemies. so i will tone it down. sorry once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kialan Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Don't worry, I'm just an ass. I say what's on my mind too much. Pay no attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oesii Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 okay, i am an adult here. i didn't realize it was that big of an issue. i usually spend most of my day on the computer anyways. i just love atari and am not looking to make any enemies. so i will tone it down. sorry once again. Don't worry about it, at least your posts are Atari-related and not complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigma Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I know some people have different meanings for what is a SPAM post. Exactly. SPAM would have to be defined before people can be kicked out because of it. I think it's spam when it's supposed to be annoying, spiteful, harmful, and/or irritating. Like candiru said, some settle down after a while (me, for example). All I have to say to you is "03 Jan 2004" ! I think it's time to go back to that day and hit a delete thread button. As do I. That was incredibly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I cant edit my posts, so I'll have to spam instead A differant board I'm a member of has recently introced a minimum on the number of characters per post, I think its set to 20. This has obviously resulted in a drastic reduction of the smiley only posts Shortly demonstrated. Used in moderation the smiley only post is OK IMO, but it easily gets out of hand and abused to increase post count/stats. Rest assured if I ever administer a forum, this minimum character limit feature will be active. Fretwobbler that would be worse! instead of posts you would get posts which looks really ugly as you can see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 That does look ugly. but irrelavant for two reasons... 1 - it doesnt happen on the board that implemented it, viz. proof it works. 2 - if it did happen it wouldnt take too long before you were booted. Its easier to spot and not so easy to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Maybe this guys posts would count as spam: http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0553&highlight= http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0552&highlight= http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0551&highlight= Instead of one for all his auctions he's got three seperate threads and he's only got 9 posts total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Player Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Maybe this guys posts would count as spam: http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0553&highlight= http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0552&highlight= http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t...0551&highlight= Instead of one for all his auctions he's got three seperate threads and he's only got 9 posts total. Looks like an auction pimp to me. I personally wouldn't buy from a pimp, but then, I've stopped using eBay anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Posted May 20, 2004 Author Share Posted May 20, 2004 Oh dear, this thread got a lot more attention than I expected. Firstly I would like to say that I thought I worded my original post carefully and mentioned no names so as to hopefully not single out any user. I didn't want to be seen as personally attacking someone as that was not my attention. I appologise to the AA member in question and regret now giving any figures. My actual intention was to put an idea in Alberts head for the new forum software. It was just a suggestion/solution to a problem we have experienced in the past. I guess I didn't word my original post so well as this went over many peoples head. So I appologise to everyone now and hopefully this thread will get back on track. And finally just to clarify, my definition of spam is pointless posts for the sake of raising post counts. Like I said before, we do need some of this to give the community a human touch so to speak but too much and we will see someof the crap which has occured in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 I do enjoy farting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Oh dear, this thread got a lot more attention than I expected. Firstly I would like to say that I thought I worded my original post carefully and mentioned no names so as to hopefully not single out any user. I didn't want to be seen as personally attacking someone as that was not my attention. I appologise to the AA member in question and regret now giving any figures. My actual intention was to put an idea in Alberts head for the new forum software. It was just a suggestion/solution to a problem we have experienced in the past. I guess I didn't word my original post so well as this went over many peoples head. So I appologise to everyone now and hopefully this thread will get back on track. And finally just to clarify, my definition of spam is pointless posts for the sake of raising post counts. Like I said before, we do need some of this to give the community a human touch so to speak but too much and we will see someof the crap which has occured in the past. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 My above post was made to show everyone that one can have a post of more than 20 characers, as that one is, without making any useful point whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretwobbler Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 The board software would count that as 4 characters regardless of whats between the quote tages. (5 if there is a sapce between '+' and ':') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 The board software would count that as 4 characters regardless of whats between the quote tages. (5 if there is a sapce between '+' and ':') There are 20 spaces in that quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdement Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I'd like a system similar to what they use at www.tek-tips.com . Registered users could vote on posts that they find helpful or inappropriate. This would provide the feedback needed so the system (or moderator) can automatically deal with stupid posts. It also provides a way to more accurately measure the quality, not just the quantity of people's posts. This doesn't mean we'd be voting constantly. In practice, most posts won't get any feedback. The ones that get people voting would be the really good or really bad ones. At minimum, I'd be happy with just a way to vote for inappropriate posts, and more than some number of votes would cause the post to not be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 If there is a real SPAM problem on AA then I haven' t noticed it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 This doesn't mean we'd be voting constantly. In practice, most posts won't get any feedback. The ones that get people voting would be the really good or really bad ones. Yea, but who wants to sit around and vote for any post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I'd like a system similar to what they use at www.tek-tips.com . Registered users could vote on posts that they find helpful or inappropriate. This would provide the feedback needed so the system (or moderator) can automatically deal with stupid posts. It also provides a way to more accurately measure the quality, not just the quantity of people's posts. This doesn't mean we'd be voting constantly. In practice, most posts won't get any feedback. The ones that get people voting would be the really good or really bad ones. At minimum, I'd be happy with just a way to vote for inappropriate posts, and more than some number of votes would cause the post to not be counted. That would turn this site into a popularity contest. If that ever took place, I'd stop posting here since I come here when I want a break from work, not to feel like I have to hold back like I do at work. Besides, who's to decide whether or not something is spam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2600 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I'd like a system similar to what they use at www.tek-tips.com . Registered users could vote on posts that they find helpful or inappropriate. This would provide the feedback needed so the system (or moderator) can automatically deal with stupid posts. It also provides a way to more accurately measure the quality, not just the quantity of people's posts. This doesn't mean we'd be voting constantly. In practice, most posts won't get any feedback. The ones that get people voting would be the really good or really bad ones. At minimum, I'd be happy with just a way to vote for inappropriate posts, and more than some number of votes would cause the post to not be counted. The problem with this is that there are some rivalries on this board. For Example, suppose one member posted something, do you think his rivals would think twice before voting his posts as inappropriate, even if they are perfectly fine posts? IMHO, it would create too many divisions and too much work for the moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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