TheRedEye Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Okay, so the 5200 version was released in 1986, meaning that this game could have been simultaneously in development for the 7800, right? So it might not be that the fire button is "missing," it seems to me that it's not supposed to be there yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTiger Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 I wanna 5200->7800 adaptor.... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 RoF was complete for the 5200 by late Feburary of 84. I don't know what the date is on this prototype, but I'd guess it's later than that. Therefore I doubt it's the early "Rescue Mission" version, but anything is possible. http://www.atariprotos.com/5200/software/rof/rof.htm Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 Okay, so the 5200 version was released in 1986, meaning that this game could have been simultaneously in development for the 7800, right? So it might not be that the fire button is "missing," it seems to me that it's not supposed to be there yet! The games for the 5200 were done in 1983-84, the boxes just said 86' on them, the 7800 version was started by late spring/early summer 84' Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 From David Fox himself: "The game was originally conceived as purely a rescue mission (hence one of its working titles, Rescue Mission), with no shooting! You were supposed to force the trailing enemy planes to crash into the mountains through sudden maneuvers." Lucas made them add the fire button later. Does it make sense for this early version to be on the 7800? I'm not very good with release dates. The 7800 version was written by Lars Hanning of GCC, I will be putting together all of his emails into a nice webpage in the Atari 7800 section of Atarimuseum.com along with the rom release in the coming couple of weeks. Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedEye Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 You da man, Curt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 From David Fox himself: "The game was originally conceived as purely a rescue mission (hence one of its working titles, Rescue Mission), with no shooting! You were supposed to force the trailing enemy planes to crash into the mountains through sudden maneuvers." Lucas made them add the fire button later. Does it make sense for this early version to be on the 7800? I'm not very good with release dates. The 7800 version was written by Lars Hanning of GCC, I will be putting together all of his emails into a nice webpage in the Atari 7800 section of Atarimuseum.com along with the rom release in the coming couple of weeks. Curt Did Lars say that this was the last version he worked on? Also, once Jack took over, was that the last time GCC worked on any 7800 games? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedijeff Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Were there any other games GCC was working on or started for the 7800 that were never finished or released? Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcprs1 Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Great stuff Curt. I wish I had more time at the computer show to look at all the stuff you brought with you. I was very impressed with the 5200/7800 converter and the keyboard. It would be awesome if they could be released one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 From David Fox himself: "The game was originally conceived as purely a rescue mission (hence one of its working titles, Rescue Mission), with no shooting! You were supposed to force the trailing enemy planes to crash into the mountains through sudden maneuvers." Lucas made them add the fire button later. Does it make sense for this early version to be on the 7800? I'm not very good with release dates. The 7800 version was written by Lars Hanning of GCC, I will be putting together all of his emails into a nice webpage in the Atari 7800 section of Atarimuseum.com along with the rom release in the coming couple of weeks. Curt Did Lars say that this was the last version he worked on? Also, once Jack took over, was that the last time GCC worked on any 7800 games? Allan Hi Allan... Yes this was the only version that had been done. The GCC guys still kept working on items for a few weeks after the sale of Atari in July 84' They were working for Warner, not Atari itself, however Jack didn't want to pay them for the 7800 and the games, however GCC and Warner came to terms since Warner had committed Atari and its resources, they had announced the product, shown it at CES and so forth. Warner was now a 27% stake holder in the new Atari Corp now owned by Jack Tramiel and Warner pressures him to complete the deal which he does. GCC is basically given a one time "Go Away" check which they quickly cash before it bounces and they turn over the spec's and deliverables for the console and MARIA chip, they also turn over the ROM images (but not the source code) to the original 10 games that were finished. They had 14 games in the works, RoF being one of them, Track & Field being another. The computer keyboard, OSS/Atari 7800 basic, Videowriter and several other computer programs were not purcahsed and delivered. So more surprises might be in store soon... Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 Great stuff Curt. I wish I had more time at the computer show to look at all the stuff you brought with you. I was very impressed with the 5200/7800 converter and the keyboard. It would be awesome if they could be released one day. I'm really sorry we didn't have more time to chat, its such a flood of conversations, questions and so forth, there is never enough time... Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Track & Field being another. Hmm... Interesting. I've also heard Moon Patrol was being worked on. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 more surprises might be in store soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedijeff Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 GCC is basically given a one time "Go Away" check which they quickly cash before it bounces and they turn over the spec's and deliverables for the console and MARIA chip, they also turn over the ROM images (but not the source code) to the original 10 games that were finished. They had 14 games in the works, RoF being one of them, Track & Field being another.Curt Just to clarify, does that mean GCC worked on 14 games or 24 games? Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 14 Games were commissioned and in the works, 5 Computer apps were in the works. Then came the Tramiels... Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Any word on any of this? Plus, any chance of getting that video posted of the GCC speech? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thund3r Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 I wanna 5200->7800 adaptor.... *sigh* If only, it gives us a way for us to play 5200 games insted of inporting one for hundreds..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Awesome to see all this. As I have said on the keyboard adaptor many times, can't wait to try this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Wasn't the GCC name for the 7800 'Turbo 2600' The keyboard on page one of this thread looks like an R.E version of an A8 (XL) keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdement Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Wasn't the GCC name for the 7800 'Turbo 2600' The early programming guide (1983) and the MARIA acceptance specs call it the 3600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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