elviticus Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Who, in your opinion, was the most consistent (-ly GOOD ) developer for the Atari 2600? My vote is Mattel. I was playing a bunch of M-Network games the other night, and I realized that they really didn't make any game that wasn't reasonably good quality - and a lot that are very fun games. OK, Burgertime is a pretty rough port... but, when compared to, oh, DKJ - not so bad. Almost all of their games have a high level of challenge, solid graphics and very tight gameplay. If the rumor about coleco (messing up conversions on purpose) is true - it seems the opposite was so for Mattel. Most of the games (to me) seem better on the 2600. The only game I don't have yet is Star Strike (..searching.. ) So, who do you guys think was the most consistently good developer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cvga Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I agree with Mattel. I think many of their games are underrated. I also think Parker Bros games are very consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanglyman Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Consistent quality? Imagic all the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Consistent quality? Imagic all the way... I agree. Some of their games are lesser known than others, but they are all of high quality (except for fire fighter, that game isn't really up to Imagic's usual standards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Yea, Imagic is my number one, since I didn't have a problem with any of their games at all. I like fire fighter, too. Of course someone will mention Activision and I agree overall but I felt they had some weaker titles especially towards the end (*cough* double dragon *cough* (and I don't care what excuses you have to make to yourself to force yourself to enjoy the game, it's one of the worst 2600 games in existence.)) Parker and Mattell were surprisingly consistent. I also enjoyed all of segas games and all three of konamis games are very good imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Boy, this is actually a pretty tough question, since there were a number of developers that were actually quite impressive... Imagic - Imagic really had no bad games it seems... and in fact, pretty much all of their games are quite impressive, such as Moonsweeper, Cosmic Ark, and Laser Gates. The only Imagic release that I really don't care much for is Riddle of the Sphinx, and that's probably because I never bothered to learn how to play it! Starpath - It's unfortunate that you have to muck around with an extra peripheral and tape player in order to play these games, because really, Starpath made some AMAZING games for the 2600. Having multi-load games and extra ram and all that certainly gave them an edge. Survival Island, Escape from the Mind Master, Dragonstomper, Communist Mutants from Space, and Sword of Saros are all excellent and very original games! Activision - I'm surprised no one has mentioned Activision yet. Actually, I'm not THAT surprised. Although Activision pulled off some of my favorite 2600 games of all (ie, Enduro, Pitfall 2, River Raid and so on), there are plenty of games they released that are quite derivitive, if not total rip-offs of existing games... such as Robot Tank and Chopper Command. Atari - Alright, I know Pac-Man and E.T. were bad, and they released some stinker kids games like Math Gran Prix, but when you look at the sheer number of good games they actually released, I think it's very impressive! Plus, they gain extra points due to the fact that ALL of the above companies completely ripped off Star Raiders. When the three most consistent companies steal your ideas, you have to be doing something right! Parker Bros - Aside from Amidar, I think everything Parker Bros has done has been total class! Pulling off games like Star Wars: The Arcade Game, Gyruss (with music even!) and Montezuma's Revenge on the 2600 is very impressive. M Network - Mattel did some good games, but frankly, I thought most of their INTV ports were rather watered down and could have been done better. For example, Lock 'n' Chase certainly could have used some better sprites, and Tron: Deadly Discs is awfully repetitive. None of their games were terrible though. A lot of other companies were very good, but didn't make enough games to really include in the list, like CBS, Sega, and Epyx. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Most consistent means the smallest percentage of bad games. That kills Atari right off the bat. Activision and Parker had some dogs as well (remember Strawberry Shortcake). M Network and Imagic were definitely the most reliable of the prolific publishers. The only weak games made by Imagic were Fire Fighter and Shootin Gallery, and these are at least visually impressive. Every M Network game was fun for what it was. But most reliable of all? Venturevision. One game. It was great. That's 100% consistency! Sega and Fox deserve mentions as well. Not many classics, but overall good products throughout their lineups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Hi there! But most reliable of all? Venturevision. One game. It was great. That's 100% consistency! Epyx also has 100%, even with 3 titles Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I think the Epyx games are technically impressive, but few events are actually fun to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviticus Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 But most reliable of all? Venturevision. One game. It was great. That's 100% consistency! True... and so, I also nominate TNT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 5 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Mythicon was pretty consistant... While I love Activision to death, there were a few pretty bad games that hurt in the consistancy department (double dragon and rampage really hurt.) But Activision's great games are among the best for the system (pitfall, pitfall 2, river raid, pressure cooker, hero). Throw in the mediocre games like oink, boxing, laser blast, and megamania (to name a few) and the "consistantly good" catagory goes out the window. My vote would be for Starpath. I think they were all a level above everything else at the time. All great games that got better and better the longer you play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I have to also say Starpath. Even the less interesting games are still pretty fun. What about CommaVid? They put out a consistent and imaginitive videogame line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candiru Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Percentage-wise I cast my vote for Imagic. Like already mentioned Fire Fighter being their only real dog. I would say Activision simply because of their outstanding titles, but they did put out some poor games along with others that while not bad, don't really grab me. I try to play a good variety of my games, but I only play about half my Activision titles on a regular basis. Of the companies that have a decent-sized library (around 10 or more) I probably play a higher percentage of my Parker Bros, M-Network, and Fox games in approximately that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris++ Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 M-Network games suck. Activision all the way. They also made the best transition to the 8-bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 there is no doubt - ACTIVISION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanglyman Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 There is no doubt that Activision made some of the best titles ever for the 2600. But for overall consistency I still say it's Imagic hands down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Of course someone will mention Activision .... Activision - I'm surprised no one has mentioned Activision yet. --Zero ahem :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 So, who do you guys think was the most consistently good developer? XYPE, of course! Unlike some other companies their "ethics" are top-notch. They don't try to screw developers, "for one thing". Great games, great programmers... and still making product; what more "could you want"?! There's no "competition", really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella+KDE Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Activision gets my vote. I loved Pressure Cooker the Most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 So, who do you guys think was the most consistently good developer? XYPE, of course! Unlike some other companies their "ethics" are top-notch. They don't try to screw developers, "for one thing". Great games, great programmers... and still making product; what more "could you want"?! There's no "competition", really. Nah, "Alien Bill Productions". To toot my own horn :-P :-P :-P Oop, loses out on "still making product"...I think JoustPong may have been my swan song as well as my premier. Unfortunately, I don't think any maker back in the day was 100% reliable, though for certain eras...mid-era Activision late-mid-era (sliver label) Atari...GCC actually... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariDude Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Has this ever been done in a poll form? Would be interesting to see the final results. For me the answer would be Activision followed by Imagic and Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I made a personal list to see which wins between Imagic and Activision and it looks like Imagic wins. Atlantis - Great Cosmic Ark - OK Demon Attack - Great Dragonfire - OK, although I don't like it that much Fathom - OK, although I don't like it that much Fire Fighter - Blah Laser Gates - Great Moonsweeper - Loved it when it was new, still kind of fun No Escape! - Not bad Quick Step! - Not so hot Riddle of the Sphinx - Loved it when it was new Shootin' Gallery - OK Solar Storm - Don't like it that much Star Voyager - OK, but don't like it that much Subterranea - Great Activision Decathlon - Sucks hot ass because I hate joystick jerker games Barnstorming - Boring crap Beamrider - Good, sometimes Great Boxing - Fun for 5 minutes Bridge - ? Checkers - ? Chopper Command - Better than Atari's Defender, but not better than Stargate Commando - Yuck Cosmic Commuter - OK Crackpots - OK Dolphin - Yuck Double Dragon - Crap Dragster - Yuck Enduro - Great Fishing Derby - Fun for a while Freeway - Crap when compared to Frogger Frostbite - Yuck, a cross between Q*bert and the top part of Frogger Ghostbusters - Crap Grand Prix - Crap because the cars are always in the same place H.E.R.O. - Crap because the stuff is always in the same place Ice Hockey - OK, but I don't like it that much Kaboom! - Great for a while Keystone Kapers - OK for 5 minutes until you get sick of it Kung Fu Master - Yuck Oink! - OK, semi-fun Pitfall - Crap. Swinging on the rope is fun, but the rest is crap. Pitfall II: Lost Caverns - Crappier gameplay than Pitfall Plaque Attack - Crap Pressure Cooker - OK, but I don't like it that much Private Eye - Crap Rampage - Crap River Raid - Fun until you find out everything is always in the same place River Raid II - Yuck Robot Tank - OK Seaquest - Great because it contains randomness, unlike many Activision games Skiing - Yuck Sky Jinks - yuck, as boring as Barnstorming Space Shuttle - Great if you can talk yourself into thinking that it's not mind numbingly boring Stampede - Crap Starmaster - Great when it was new (played it over and over) Tennis - Best tennis game ever made for the Atari 2600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Solar Storm - Don't like it that much I really like this game. It has great graphics, sound, and gameplay. Once it gets going fast it is really an impulse game like kaboom (since you can go from one side of the screen to the other in a split second with the paddle) It is really one of Imagic's lesser known gems, along with Subterranea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 5 Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I guess it's really a matter of opinion because I put HERO and Fathom on my top 10 list of my favorite atari games. I do agree, however, that there are a lot of bad Activision games, but I still think there are as many great ones as there are bad. Pitfall and Kaboom would be nominees for 'greatest atari game ever made' if such an award existed. My vote still goes to Starpath for making the most consistantly great games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cvga Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I do agree, however, that there are a lot of bad Activision games, but I still think there are as many great ones as there are bad. I agree and I guess this would eliminate Activision from being the most consistent designer even though they may be the best. Whoever said Mythicon was most consistent was correct. You don't have to be good to be consistent. All three of their games seem nearly identical (and suck). You can't get much more consistent than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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