kenfused Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Atart 5200 Beef Drop Cartridge secret codes not in the manual for anyone who has never found them: Play with 4 more screens for a total of 10 screens (you have to clear the first 6 screens though) Enter 243 on the title screen, the sound heard when picking up a bonus pepper object should be heard. You must reset to clear this code. Play in Mirror mode Enter 767 on the title screen. The sound you hear when you run out of pepper when you press the button should be heard. All screens in the game will be flipped horizonally (makes more of a difference for some then the others. This code is a toggle. The above two can be combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 are these in the 8bit version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 So if I EVER clear six screens there are FOUR more! Crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted December 18, 2004 Author Share Posted December 18, 2004 are these in the 8bit version?The codes in the post only work on the 5200 cartridge version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted December 18, 2004 Author Share Posted December 18, 2004 So if I EVER clear six screens there are FOUR more! Crap.Just be sure you listen for the sound to confirm the code is accepted before you try. Mirror mode works on all screens though so you will see it on the first screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnice Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hey Kenfused, others, Question about the new Beef Drop for the computer: Why does this game run on a 5200 and not a 400 computer? I read that both of these systems are pretty similar, so I'm guessing the 400 has only 16K or RAM, while the 5200 has 32K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Question about the new Beef Drop for the computer: Why does this game run on a 5200 and not a 400 computer? I read that both of these systems are pretty similar, so I'm guessing the 400 has only 16K or RAM, while the 5200 has 32K? The Atari 5200 allows for non-bankswitched, 32K cartridges, and Beef Drop takes full advantage of that and is a 32K game. Because the entire game can run from the cartridge, less RAM is required. However, the Atari 8-bit computers only support 16K cartridges, and to go above that you need to bankswitch. In order to make Beef Drop easier to port, it copies a portion of itself into the computer's RAM (16K, I believe), and thus, requires more memory than the 5200 version. Ken and/or Bryan can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is the gist of it. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Yep. Both the 5200 and the 400 have 16K of RAM, but the maximum cartridge size is different, and I believe Ken is using the method Albert mentioned, of unloading part of the game into RAM on the A8. -Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 No bonus on the 800 version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 No bonus on the 800 version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 The Atari 5200 allows for non-bankswitched, 32K cartridges, and Beef Drop takes full advantage of that and is a 32K game. Because the entire game can run from the cartridge, less RAM is required. However, the Atari 8-bit computers only support 16K cartridges, and to go above that you need to bankswitch. In order to make Beef Drop easier to port, it copies a portion of itself into the computer's RAM (16K, I believe), and thus, requires more memory than the 5200 version. Ken and/or Bryan can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is the gist of it. ..Al It could be ported to only need 16K RAM, but it would take a lot more time since I would have to restructure the code and move various routines to be in various banks. It is much faster coding to just have it bank in the various banks at startup and copy the lower 16K into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 No bonus on the 800 version It was mentioned the bonus screens and such are not available on the 800 version - thats the reason for the sad face - I still plan on buying it though - I want another kenfused surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I thought Ken had added that back in? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted March 3, 2005 Author Share Posted March 3, 2005 It was mentioned the bonus screens and such are not available on the 800 version - thats the reason for the sad face - I still plan on buying it though - I want another kenfused surprise I compressed the screen to free up some space to put them in. It also gave me enough room to add an arcade-ish font. There is even another 3K ROM free that I don't really have time to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Excellent - I ordered my 800 cart today Are the commands to invoke them the same as mentioned for the 5200 above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Excellent - I ordered my 800 cart today Are the commands to invoke them the same as mentioned for the 5200 above? the codes should all be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnice Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I just purchased Beef Drop, and am quite happy with it! I'm going to have to work on some better strategies for a couple of the levels (something besides using all my pepper in a single level). One question: Why does the music become out of sync after a while? I noticed that was happening with the earlier in-development ROMs as well, but maybe nobody mentioned it back then. Even with this problem, though, I still enjoy the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavv Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I just purchased Beef Drop, and am quite happy with it! I'm going to have to work on some better strategies for a couple of the levels (something besides using all my pepper in a single level). One question: Why does the music become out of sync after a while? I noticed that was happening with the earlier in-development ROMs as well, but maybe nobody mentioned it back then. Even with this problem, though, I still enjoy the game! 911546[/snapback] yeah, the strategy is definitely unique for the 5200 version, more similiarities to the 2600 version (and the extremely crappy C64 thing they try to call burgertime) than all the other versions, that being that when dropping the baddies, they reappear as if they were squished, rather than remaining in the same ingredient piece and 'respawn'. It makes scoring and grouping much tougher. i've only managed about 87K on the 5200 BD so far in some brief playing. gavv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 How soon before you think you can release this in the 7800 version? Sure would love to have it by Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Just wanted to say that 5200 Beef Drop is such the ownage, I'm so glad to have purchased this when it was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) Wow, reversed screens and hidden screens! That was a cool idea! Maybe I'll "borrow" that idea someday. Btw, I haven't bought this yet but it isn't because of lack of interest in the game. I do plan to very shortly. I play most of my games in the fall and expect to play some new homebrews Fall '05. Edited August 16, 2005 by Cafeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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