+batari Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 And these have not:... Lord of the Rings ... This one is finished and waiting on my HD until Marc recovers. 848693[/snapback] OK then... I've done Popeye. It had to be done with F4. It's not been tested much. I searched this time to see if it had already been done, and I couldn't find anything that said it has. popeye_F4.zip popeye_F4_PAL.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Popeye seems to use five bank combinations, but I couldn't get it to work as an F4 cart You are correct, it uses 5 bank combinations. But I found that simply replacing the hotspots didn't work, for two reasons: 1. The "power on" sequence 5-6-7-8 needs to be initialized at startup 2. The game seems to access FFFA and/or FFFB for some strange reason, causing problems in a F4 scheme. Also, did you ever finish Frogger II? I found a page that says "In Progress" but no binary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Just did Tutankham... It was a little harder than the others but not too bad. (This hasn't already been done, has it? ) Now the only ones that haven't been done yet may be: Frogger II (Bruce Tomlin may have done this one) Mr. Do's Castle Tooth Protectors I await the final word on which of the above have already been done.... Tutankham_F4.zip Tutankham_F4_PAL.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 And these have not:Frogger II Lord of the Rings Mr. Do's Castle Popeye Tooth Protectors Tutankham That's right. And there's a good reason for it, too. Because those are the hard ones. TJ says he's got LotR, so you can have at the others. Ironically, three of the remaining ones are quite rare. So if you want a real challenge, you can try Frogger II, Mr. Do's Castle, or Tooth Protectors. Kroko owners will love you for it. Just heed my warnings on why they're hard before you choose one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 So if you want a real challenge, you can try Frogger II, Mr. Do's Castle, or Tooth Protectors. Kroko owners will love you for it. Just heed my warnings on why they're hard before you choose one. 849173[/snapback] OK... Here's Tooth protectors...Just NTSC, as there doesn't seem to be a PAL version. I looked at Mr. Do's Castle, and it seems to have too many combinations, even for 32k. Maybe it would work as an extended 3F? I haven't tried Frogger II yet... I look at that next. tooth_F4.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 Frogger II converted to F6... Frogger2_F6.zip Frogger2_F6_PAL.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) Kickin' some ass there... Anyhow, from looking at the state of my files, apparently I never did finish Frogger II. I think maybe my "in progress" meant TJ said he was working on it. Edited May 5, 2005 by Bruce Tomlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 I think maybe my "in progress" meant TJ said he was working on it. I once said: "Maybe I'll do Frogger II next." That's all (and Frogger II doesn't look easy at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 And these have not:Frogger II Lord of the Rings Mr. Do's Castle Popeye Tooth Protectors Tutankham That's right. And there's a good reason for it, too. Because those are the hard ones. TJ says he's got LotR, so you can have at the others. Ironically, three of the remaining ones are quite rare. So if you want a real challenge, you can try Frogger II, Mr. Do's Castle, or Tooth Protectors. Kroko owners will love you for it. Just heed my warnings on why they're hard before you choose one. 849173[/snapback] Why would I be happy? I already own all 3... Good work though on getting Frogger 2 and Tooth Protectors done. Tooth protectors is an interesting game, that I strangely like. I like the whole breakout/killer ap concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 (edited) There's only one E0 cart now that's not converted (Mr. Do's Castle) but this one is really tough. My brain hurts from trying to do it. Tonight I was up for something easier so I converted an E7 M-network cart (He-Man) to F4. AFAIK there is no PAL version of this. Also, note that the right difficulty on this game serves as a "pause" so it must be set to "A" for the game to work. He_man_F4.zip Edited May 6, 2005 by batari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Just for kicks, I converted the NTSC Bump 'N Jump from E7 to F6. It was easy, only 4 hotspots, making it easier than a PAL->NTSC conversion of the Telegames PAL version... Bump_n_Jump_F6.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroko Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Just for kicks, I converted the NTSC Bump 'N Jump from E7 to F6. It was easy, only 4 hotspots, making it easier than a PAL->NTSC conversion of the Telegames PAL version... 850375[/snapback] Good Job ! I start to think that those companies only invented new BS schemes because there were patent issues with the common ones ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Here it is... The last E0 game that needs conversion: Mr. Do's Castle! Well, honestly, I don't know how to play this game, so I haven't tested it properly. I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows the game will tell me if it plays properly (that is, I hear there's supposed to be 4 levels but I can't figure out level 1!) If itdoes indeed play correctly, I'll do the PAL version too. MrDosCastle_F4.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Good job! Now we definitely need a Bankswitching Conversion page! Al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroko Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Great Job Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 I've finally got Decathlon working as F6. This one was VERY hard, as it used FE bankswitching and switched dozens of times throughout the kernel. Therefore I had to rewrite and/or relocate much of the kernel to tweak the timing so that everything would work. I had to use dirty tricks to get this working such as relying on the value obtained with a LDA $1FFx and dummy fetches after an RTS, so I would appreciate a test of all events on real hardware. Also, the game had graphics data at FFF0-FFFB, accessed with indirect indexing, which was actually quite hard to track down and fix. I will do the PAL version only if the kernel is essentially the same, and I haven't checked for this yet. Decathlon_F6.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 18, 2005 Author Share Posted May 18, 2005 Wow, a very tough conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) And these have not:... Lord of the Rings ... This one is finished and waiting on my HD until Marc recovers. 848693[/snapback] Was this ever released, Thomas? And while I'm the subject, does Thwocker use the same bankswitching as Decathlon and Robot Tank? I have not been able to run it on my Kroko Cart. Edited December 18, 2005 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Good Job ! I start to think that those companies only invented new BS schemes because there were patent issues with the common ones ?! Nope, they did them because they were more flexible. Most of these conversions from E0 take up 16K for what used to be 8K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroko Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) ugh .... i was just confused .... Edited December 17, 2005 by Kroko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Well, honestly, I don't know how to play this game, so I haven't tested it properly. I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows the game will tell me if it plays properly (that is, I hear there's supposed to be 4 levels but I can't figure out level 1!) If itdoes indeed play correctly, I'll do the PAL version too. 854718[/snapback] The game does not play properly on level 2. Note screenshots. One of them is the 'normal' version of the game. The other is yours. Note that the ladder placement appears different, though the game allows the player to climb the ladder at its "proper" spot. docastle.bmp mrdoscas.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Well, honestly, I don't know how to play this game, so I haven't tested it properly. I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows the game will tell me if it plays properly (that is, I hear there's supposed to be 4 levels but I can't figure out level 1!) If itdoes indeed play correctly, I'll do the PAL version too. 854718[/snapback] The game does not play properly on level 2. Note screenshots. One of them is the 'normal' version of the game. The other is yours. Note that the ladder placement appears different, though the game allows the player to climb the ladder at its "proper" spot. 984471[/snapback] D'oh! I might be able to fix it if I can get to level 2 and look at Stella's debugger... How do you play? I could never figure out what you are supposed to do in this game. does Thwocker use the same bankswitching as Decathalon and Robot Tank? I have not been able to run it on my Kroko Cart. Yes, apparently. As long as it doesn't switch banks mid-kernel, it should be possible to convert. If I'm ever bored I'll look into it. Oh, and my Decathlon conversion didn't work on some hardware. Did anyone actually try this in a Kroko cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) Oh, and my Decathlon conversion didn't work on some hardware. Did anyone actually try this in a Kroko cart? 984675[/snapback] I tried Decathlon on my Kroko Cart and four-switch console. I can't say I tested it thoroughly due to the monotonous nature of the game, but I did play for a while. Edited December 18, 2005 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 D'oh! I might be able to fix it if I can get to level 2 and look at Stella's debugger... How do you play? I could never figure out what you are supposed to do in this game. 984675[/snapback] Read the manual for instructions. There are four types of blocks you can knock out. The ones with "X"'s are the skull blocks. The ones with backward "4"'s are the key blocks. The ones that look like a not-bent-enough "7" are the cherries. And the blank ones are the ones the monsters respawned. You clear a level by killing all the monsters, knocking out all the cherries, or spelling "EXTRA". Knocking out all the cherries will probably be easiest for you, since you're invincible when Player 1 is disabled (alt-X in Z26--don't know about Stella). You may also be able to hack the code (temporarily) to remove the player0-player1 collision detect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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