King Atari Posted February 18, 2002 Author Share Posted February 18, 2002 I'm guessing a decent Galaga could have been possible if the 7800 would have been used to it's full potential. Anyays, hasn't anyone done a 7800 homebrew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 Outsideo the Monitor Cartridge, nope. There is one being worked on that's like Simon, but outside of that, no one has done anything with the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 18, 2002 Author Share Posted February 18, 2002 That's too bad, if someone used the 7800 to it's fullest, just imagine how great the games could be. BTW, the one thing that always bothered me the most about the 7800 was the colors. They always seemed so dull. Is their anyway to get around this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgWyld Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 Wow! Heck, I've always enjoyed the heck out of Galaga for the 7800. Guess I'm in the minority, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 18, 2002 Author Share Posted February 18, 2002 I used to play a lot of it too, but in reality it really was awful when compared to the arcade. If it's all you have, then go with it, but I suggest the NES release or the version on Namco Museum for GBA. And of course, you can't go wrong with MAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgWyld Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 quote: Originally posted by King Atari: I used to play a lot of it too, but in reality it really was awful when compared to the arcade. If it's all you have, then go with it, but I suggest the NES release or the version on Namco Museum for GBA. And of course, you can't go wrong with MAME. Got the one for MAME, and it's great. The 7800 one, however, is still oddly appealing. Guess I'll have to pick up the NES one, too. Geez. How many times will I have to pay for that game, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 Yeah, I have Galaga on nearly all the consoles I own it came out on, and the 7800 one still has an odd appeal to it. So like, if new 7800 homebrews become popular, are people going to go with the extra RAM and stuff inside the carts themselves, sound chips, etc. it would probably be a bit pricey, but for NES quality games, it would probably be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 19, 2002 Author Share Posted February 19, 2002 I agree, it would be worth the price to use the 7800 to it's full extent (notice how I keep saying stuff like that?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 19, 2002 Author Share Posted February 19, 2002 But what about the 7800's color? Is this unavoidable because of the hardware, or can it become better by using more RAM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Ethan C. Nobles: As far as I'm concerned, the 7800 has one advantage over just about anything else out there -- darn good ports of classic arcade games. While the focus on arcade ports hurt the system when it came out initially, it's nice to have that around now. I must have been one of the only people back in 1987 who (as a 15-year-old kid) actually liked the fact that the 7800 had some nice conversions of some of my favorite arcade games. I liked being able to play games like Pole Position II, Xevious, Food Fight, and Galaga at home for the first time. As far as the other games went, even though they were out on the 2600 or 5200 already, I liked seeing how much they had improved on the 7800. Most of the early 7800 arcade translations were (at the time) the best home versions by a country mile. In that respect, the system was satisfying to me. Some people might have viewed those as "old games," but I just felt they were "great games." Interestingly, although people pointed out how the NES got better ports of some of the Namco arcade games later on (I suppose those games stopped being "old" after a few years, huh?), it's ironic how when Atari finally started getting ports of "newer" arcade games like Xenophobe, Commando, Rampage, and Double Dragon, they were all healthy improvments over the NES versions, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 19, 2002 Author Share Posted February 19, 2002 quote: it's ironic how when Atari finally started getting ports of "newer" arcade games like Xenophobe, Commando, Rampage, and Double Dragon, they were all healthy improvments over the NES versions, too. Well, I don't think 7800 DD was an improvement over the NES version, unless you're looking for arcade faithfullness. Although I haven't personally played the game (yet!), the screenshots I have seen have been pretty faithful to the coin-op. However, I'm sure that the game wouldn't be very easy to control with the Pro-Line joysticks. NES DD is very easy to control and beating up bad guys is dead on. As I've said before, The NES and Genesis versions of the original DD are my favorites. BTW, 7800 Xenophobe is definitely a HUGE improvement over the NES release. I consider the NES version the worst version available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgWyld Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Gunstar: I remember playing Galaga at the arcade a few times years ago, and later on the 7800, and I always thought it was a pretty good port myself, I never noticed anything different in game play, and the graphical difference I chalked up to a lower resolution (and the screen facing 90* the other way). I've since played it on the Namco Museum on the PSX, and come to the same conclusion. So what is so bad about the 7800 version to you guys again? Or is it just that better versions have come along since the 7800? I heard someone mention the speed being slow on the 7800 version once, but all you have to do is increase the difficulty (or wait until the higher levels), it seems quite fast to me... Glad to hear that I'm at least in a larger minority than I orginally thought. My Wife and I, frankly, have absolutely played the hell out of Galaga for the 7800. Indeed, at the higher levels, it looks plenty fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 I wore food fight and galaga, along with double dragon and pole pos 2 out on the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 20, 2002 Author Share Posted February 20, 2002 I can understand DD, Galaga, and Food Fight, but Pole Position II?! That game was SOOOO choppy! And it wasn't easy to control with the Pro-Lines, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 I remember the 7800 version... 1999 when I got me an Atari 7800 again, I got like 15 7800 games and I played Galaga to death! I did notice though , the super uppity high levels, the motion from left to right does get kinda jerky, but man! They are moving sooo fast! It's a good game for the 7800! Clint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 Looking back, i dont see how i played it so much.. but i guess when its the first game you play on a system it kinda holds sentimentqal value.. the same thing holds true with most systems ive played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 20, 2002 Author Share Posted February 20, 2002 That's what it's like for me and Riddle of Sphinx, once I got my 2600 back home (after buying it back after shamefully trading it, it's a long story), it's the first thing I saw. I think the game is a little dull after awhile, but I'm somewhat find of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 I remember playing Galaga at the arcade a few times years ago, and later on the 7800, and I always thought it was a pretty good port myself, I never noticed anything different in game play, and the graphical difference I chalked up to a lower resolution (and the screen facing 90* the other way). I've since played it on the Namco Museum on the PSX, and come to the same conclusion. So what is so bad about the 7800 version to you guys again? Or is it just that better versions have come along since the 7800? I heard someone mention the speed being slow on the 7800 version once, but all you have to do is increase the difficulty (or wait until the higher levels), it seems quite fast to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 I've never played BallBlazer, what's the appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 its a GREAT 2 player game, with good visuals, great sound, great gameplay, just all around awesome. Best for the system, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 But what do you actually do in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmi Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by King Atari: But what do you actually do in it? the back of the box explains it better then i ever could http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?Soft...6&BoxStyleID=74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hey, that sounds pretty cool. I'll have to pick up a copy somewhere. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't it come with both a standard 7800 end label, and a red one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmi Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by King Atari: And if I'm not mistaken, didn't it come with both a standard 7800 end label, and a red one? yup both are listed here at atariage the red end label is the rare one i think Osheas still has ballblazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 >> if it could offer richer experiences, no one every leveraged that power. << I'm not sure I'd go THAT far. I think Tower Toppler did a great deal with the 7800 hardware. Especially the submarine sequence with the parallax scrolling. Looks almost like a Genesis game there. But that's about all I've seen that's that impressive. I'm sure the 7800 could do more with more innovative programming and more memory. The 7800 really is optimized for low-color games with lots of small moving objects over a minimal background. I heard that the people who did the chipset also did the original Williams chipset, hence the excellent port of Robotron. That's not really the kind of game that people wanted to play in the mid to late 80s, but the 7800 can do a better job of it than the NES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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