King Atari Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I was wondering, but since Gremlins has a copyright screen of 1984, but the cart says 1986, was this game another casualty of the crash? Also, I've heard of a cart that has a 1984 date, instead of '86. So, was it released briefly in '84, then again in '86? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Gremlins is under my hat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain King Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Speaking of which, if Secret Quest was the last game Atari produced for the 2600, it has the copyright date of 1989 then why does Sentinel have the copyright date of 1990? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 quoteAlso, I've heard of a cart that has a 1984 date, instead of '86. So, was it released briefly in '84, then again in '86? Yep. I have a 1984 copyright. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Yes, they are many games out which have more copyrights then one. Gremlins is only one of them. I have for example more: Asterix (1983), Asterix (1983 & 1985) Centipede (1982), Centipede (1987) Dig Dug (1983), Dig Dug (1985) Missile Command (1981), Missile Command (1987), Missile Command (1991) Obelix (1983), Obélix (1986) Raiders of the Lost Ark (1982), Raiders of the Lost Ark (1986) RS Tennis (1983), RS Tennis (1986), RS Tennis (1988) And there exist more from the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Actually I've always been curious as to how many carts have a 1985 copyright. 85 wasn't a good year for Atari so I doubt it's that many. I have Stargate and Asterix with an 85 copyright. I'd have to check on others. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I forget, most of them I listed are PAL. Only Raiders of the Lost Ark. I don't know if the diffrent copyright are all the same in PAL and NTSC. Maybe its the same with some Red Lable games, that they exist only in PAL. Or like the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1986) only exist in NTSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 11, 2002 Author Share Posted April 11, 2002 Was Gremlins ever released in PAL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 No, I don't think so. I own too only a NTSC version from 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 11, 2002 Author Share Posted April 11, 2002 Well, Matthias, if you don't have a PAL version, then one simply doesn't exist . I don't think there's one, either. I've never seen one on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Lol I miss many PAL games. So if I have it or not it doesn't tell anything about the existing. But since I collect, I have never seen one. But I have never see too a PAL Pengo, only here on Atari Age. And this exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Hi!! Yes, I do have cartridge of Gremlins, the copyright 1986, but I know really the first edition 1984. Must remembered that time 1984 before Jack T. brought Atari company is INC. later changed to Crop. that why re-printed 1986 that showed "Crop." at the bottom of the label of cartridge. If Im right???? Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Hi!! One more addition: The first editon 1984 of Gremlins, the label is sliver. But for the second editon 1986 is look grey color label. You do understand what Im saying?? Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Yes, I understand. I have too some game were they lables grey and silver by diffrent copyrights. Like Asterix, Obelix & Raiders of the Lost Ark. The later release are often grey. I have call them silver (grey is better), and the first release Silver Metallic (because the reflect a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 yes that is true, understand that I would like 1984 sliver label Gremlins, beacuse very hard to find, it seem bit more vaulable than later release 1986 version Gremlins, grey label??? I do have sliver label Space Invaders (the label showed 1980 under INC. not Crop.)!!! I bet this one is much harder to find at E-Bay. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 I've actually seen Silver Label Space Invaders a few times on ebay. Personally, I wouldn't mind having one of the sealed Red Label carts, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I've got a CIB Red Label Space Invaders. Its cool, but for some reason it just don't look right. SI is meant to be in its old Atari Pic Label black cart. CIB Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 quote I've got a CIB Red Label Space Invaders. Its cool, but for some reason it just don't look right. SI is meant to be in its old Atari Pic Label black cart. Yes, but the whole point is that it's the last variation Atari made of the game, plus just the fact that it's a sealed copy makes it all the better. Back on topic- So the silver label copy of Gremlins is rarer than the grey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 quote: Back on topic- So the silver label copy of Gremlins is rarer than the grey? Ok, do you remembered what happened in year 1984?? That beacuse Warner Communcation company that sold to Jack T. that bought Atari Company. That beacuse Atari did printed Gremlins with Sliver label under INC. for the short time before Jack T. took over Atari Company, that might stop printing Gremlins for the short time until Atari Corp. decide to re-print Gremlins with grey label in 1986. Maybe my information seem sound right? that beacuse Gremlins with sliver label seem more rare than the grey label??? I hope this information that help?? Anyone who can explain more information about this?? Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 That's what I've been thinking, but since I've really only seen a good scan of the 1986 release, I couldn't really speak of the 1984 version. Why aren't both in the rarity guide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smile_walle Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Yeah, you have a good point why have both in the same rarity guide. In my point of view I rather choose 1984 version with sliver label Gremlins than re-print 1986 version Gremlins, beacuse 1984 version is not many to be printed. I fully agreed with you with good point and why both in the same rarity guide of Gremlins??? Me too, I dont understand why?? Anyone with true collector should choose 1984 version sliver label Gremlins better. For 1986 version Gremlins (grey label) seem not that worth than the sliver label. That is my point of view. I hope anyone can answer it to this information..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 The real silver label always looked cooler anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIPITBULL Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I bought a mint in the box silver copy of Gremlins and you can see the box here in the box scan section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 The sealed one? How much did it cost you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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