FB2: Which are protos and which are homebrews?

[Brian Kendig]

Which of the Flashback 2 games are unreleased prototypes developed by Atari, and which are homebrews developed by fans?

[Lord Helmet]

Done by fans:

 

Return to Haunted House is a hack of Adventure, but is more like an original game than most hacks.

 

Atari Climber is Climber 5 in the AA store.

 

The other unreleased games were developed by Atari, or are hacks of existing Atari games, hacked by Atari developers:

 

Asteroids Deluxe

Space Duel

Adventure 2

Lunar Lander

Yar's Return

 

 

I think that's it...Someone else wil add to the list if I forgot any.

Edited October 7, 2005 by Lord Helmet

[Brian Kendig]

Thanks! Which were developed with the intention of releasing them, and which are just hacks on existing games? I'm trying to pin this down for the Wikipedia article. Like, Lunar Lander and Pong both look like original works, but I don't see anything about them in the AtariAge cartridge database.

[HP Atari King of Michigan]

Of the protos (off the top of my head) here's what's on the FB2:

 

Combat 2

Frog Pond

Saboteur (also appeared on the FB1)

Aquaventure

Save Mary

 

Another homebrew is Cavern of Mars

 

That's what I know.

[Foxsolo2000]

How would I find out more information about this Cavern of Mars Homerbrew?

[+DamonicFury]

Here's the breakdown:

 

Hacks:

Arcade Asteroids (hack of Asteroids)

Adventure II (hack of Adventure)

Return to Haunted House (hack of Adventure)

 

Homebrews:

Atari Climber (originally Climber 5)

 

Prototypes:

Aquaventure

Combat 2

Frog Pond

Saboteur

Save Mary

Wizard

 

Brand new games exclusive to the Flashback 2:

Arcade Pong

Asteroids Deluxe

Caverns of Mars

Lunar Lander

Space Duel

Yars' Return

 

All other FB2 games were released for the 2600 in the classic era. However, Fatal Run was PAL-only and Quadrun, as we all know, was extremely rare due to it's exclusive release through the Atari Fan Club.

[mos6507]

Hacks:

Arcade Asteroids (hack of Asteroids)

Adventure II (hack of Adventure)

 

 

 

I don't think Adventure II is a hack in the traditional sense. The kernel is definitely different for one thing (the square is not using the ball sprite for instance).

[supercat]

I don't think Adventure II is a hack in the traditional sense.  The kernel is definitely different for one thing (the square is not using the ball sprite for instance).

944086[/snapback]

 

Search for all occurrences of ENABL and replace with ENAM0 and vice versa. A change, to be sure, but not exactly a huge one nor one that should remove it from the real of being a 'hack'. There are bigger changes as well, including the use of more, higher resolution screens, the addition of bank switching, etc. but they're not really any more extensive (so far as I can tell) than the changes in something like Sadistroids or Hack'Em.