DracIsBack Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I just ran a digital picture through the 7800 graphics conversion program. Does this utility create a self-running file around the picture (no 7800 here to test this on) or do you also have to write code to get the picture to display? Meadow.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I just ran a digital picture through the 7800 graphics conversion program. Does this utility create a self-running file around the picture (no 7800 here to test this on) or do you also have to write code to get the picture to display? 947650[/snapback] No the tool isn't able to create self running code.Overall it's more a developer tools than an easy to use picture converter. Of course you can take the "haunted" source as template you just have to replace the gfx binary and change the color palette. The only thing that I am wonder about is the size of the binary 96kb is far to big for a picture the normal size for an 160x4 converted picture is 16kb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 I just ran a digital picture through the 7800 graphics conversion program. Does this utility create a self-running file around the picture (no 7800 here to test this on) or do you also have to write code to get the picture to display? 947650[/snapback] No the tool isn't able to create self running code.Overall it's more a developer tools than an easy to use picture converter. Of course you can take the "haunted" source as template you just have to replace the gfx binary and change the color palette. The only thing that I am wonder about is the size of the binary 96kb is far to big for a picture the normal size for an 160x4 converted picture is 16kb. 947703[/snapback] Not quite sure of the size. I was actually trying to see if the 7800 could reproduce (crudely) a digital picture. So I took a digital photo of my dog, turned it to greyscale, reduced the colours and adjusted it to the resolution demanded. 7800 developers didn't really have the luxery of tools like Adobe Photoshop or Corel Paint Shop Pro back then so I was just curious how well such a beast would appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDDuck Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I just ran a digital picture through the 7800 graphics conversion program. Does this utility create a self-running file around the picture (no 7800 here to test this on) or do you also have to write code to get the picture to display? 947650[/snapback] No the tool isn't able to create self running code.Overall it's more a developer tools than an easy to use picture converter. Of course you can take the "haunted" source as template you just have to replace the gfx binary and change the color palette. The only thing that I am wonder about is the size of the binary 96kb is far to big for a picture the normal size for an 160x4 converted picture is 16kb. 947703[/snapback] Not quite sure of the size. I was actually trying to see if the 7800 could reproduce (crudely) a digital picture. So I took a digital photo of my dog, turned it to greyscale, reduced the colours and adjusted it to the resolution demanded. 7800 developers didn't really have the luxery of tools like Adobe Photoshop or Corel Paint Shop Pro back then so I was just curious how well such a beast would appear. 951171[/snapback] Sounds intresting, do you have a picture? I'd love to see how it looks! Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I made an sample picture of a dog me and my girlfriend sometimes take care of. The archive contains pictures of every necessary step, the source code and of course the bin/a78 files. First I took a picture with a size of 320x200 than I resized the image width (/2) and reduced the number of colors. The result was converted by 78gfxconv. For your own image you just have to replace the "beropic.bin" generated by the tool with your own image and adjust the color palette. I just tested it on Prosystem Emu the colors may look different on a real 7800 (well I am quite sure the look different...) bero.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Same in black & white. bero_bw.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDDuck Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Same in black & white. 953542[/snapback] Impressive work! I hope a lot of developers use that tool. BTW, does it support 320 X 200 resolution? If not, what resolution were those screen grabs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Same in black & white. 953542[/snapback] Impressive work! I hope a lot of developers use that tool. BTW, does it support 320 X 200 resolution? If not, what resolution were those screen grabs?? 959545[/snapback] The pictures are in 160x mode. Mode 320 is not directly supported for pictures but you could "assemble" a picture in that mode. It's just a little bit more complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDDuck Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Same in black & white. 953542[/snapback] Impressive work! I hope a lot of developers use that tool. BTW, does it support 320 X 200 resolution? If not, what resolution were those screen grabs?? 959545[/snapback] The pictures are in 160x mode. Mode 320 is not directly supported for pictures but you could "assemble" a picture in that mode. It's just a little bit more complicated. 961818[/snapback] Is it worth the effort to do, or does it eat the system resources too much? ALSO- Which games are in 320 X 200 (Mode 320!), I looked in the screedshot page, and they all looked 160! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Is it worth the effort to do, or does it eat the system resources too much?ALSO- Which games are in 320 X 200 (Mode 320!), I looked in the screedshot page, and they all looked 160! 968010[/snapback] Well it depends of what you wanna do.Of course it is possible to use 320 mode but you have to bother with some restrictions and less colors. As far as I know there are only 3 (with Combat maybe 4) games that use 320 Mode: Space War, Tubes and Frogger. For pictures/titlescreens 160 mode is imho better in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hanfg of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hang of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. I'm guessing he used either used a CC2 with the 78Quick startup option or is using a 7800 that doesn't have the standard NTSC BIOS. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hang of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. I'm guessing he used either used a CC2 with the 78Quick startup option or is using a 7800 that doesn't have the standard NTSC BIOS. Mitch Opps, I forgot. Yes, I used my CC2. Here's the line. Bero - dog pic -7800 bero bero 7800_32K 78QUICK Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hanfg of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. Sorry, I can't help you with getting the files signed. I've always just been using my CC2. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwierer Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hanfg of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. This utility should do the trick http://atarihq.com/danb/files/a78sign.zip -Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Do these BIN's work on real hardware? I can't seem to get them to boot for the life of me. The 16k BW BIN or the 32k color BIN. I got the dog pic to work on my 7800. I'll look later to see what files I used with it. Allan That would be good because I found out the pics are not "signing" correctly and that is why they wont run. I would really like to know who you got them to work as is cause I had to get help from Mitch to properly sign the pic for me. I really want to get the hanfg of this tool as I want to make photo carts for myself of my own personal images. This utility should do the trick http://atarihq.com/danb/files/a78sign.zip -Jeff Yes, but only if you fix the bug in the source code first. (or manually patch the bin) Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Same in black & white. Has anyone got the black and white dog to play on their 7800? I was able to get the color dog, but not this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Same in black & white. Has anyone got the black and white dog to play on their 7800? I was able to get the color dog, but not this one. Try this one. Mitch bero_bw.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Of course it is possible to use 320 mode but you have to bother with some restrictions and less colors.As far as I know there are only 3 (with Combat maybe 4) games that use 320 Mode: Space War, Tubes and Frogger. For pictures/titlescreens 160 mode is imho better in most cases. I think One-on-One Basketball uses a 320 mode as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Where can I find this 78gfxconv program ? And are there any sources around from it ? Edited November 20, 2014 by TXG/MNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Where can I find this 78gfxconv program ? Latest; note this requirement. Actually, probably best to start from the top and keep reading down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Thanx was browsing and searching the net from mobile phone didn't find it... Will play with it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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