+Wonder007 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 (edited) What do you guys think of these??? Inquiring minds want to know!!! LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...me=STRK:MEWA:IT Edited November 29, 2005 by Wonder007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 looks like the auction was taken off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8237964089 They are not protos, this guy has been selling these for years, they are left overs. Only Dukes Of Hazzard (which he sold many of), was an unreleased game (but on a real mask ROM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 looks like the auction was taken off. 973231[/snapback] TRY IT AGAIN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8237964089 They are not protos, this guy has been selling these for years, they are left overs. Only Dukes Of Hazzard (which he sold many of), was an unreleased game (but on a real mask ROM). 973235[/snapback] GOOD INFO!!! THANKS CPUWIZ!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8237964089 They are not protos, this guy has been selling these for years, they are left overs. Only Dukes Of Hazzard (which he sold many of), was an unreleased game (but on a real mask ROM). 973235[/snapback] Uhh... What he said. Beat me to it... Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 These are listed as NOS...but then I noticed this at the bottom of the auction details: "*** DISCLAIMER: Since this (these) item (s) may have been previously owned, the descriptions are made to the best of our ability, research and knowledge.. Any error (s) or omissions, is not made to deceive or mislead." So how can they be "New"...and yet even be considered to be previously owned? Unless the seller means the packaged PCBs themselves? Oh well...doesn't interest me...as I would think Atari would have had some sort of official label on them if they were really packaged by Atari themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Tempest, Was 'Math Game' a WIP name for Basic Math? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG/Snyper2099 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Well, they certainly aren't masked roms... I bought some and they are "blobbed gunk" roms. They are certainly interesting to me but aparently hold little value among collectors. I mean, two or three of mine have giant atari logos etched onto the back of them. That alone makes them cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Tempest, Was 'Math Game' a WIP name for Basic Math? 974118[/snapback] I don't know if it was a WIP name or not, but that may have been what they called it around the office. I know I have one of these for Codebreaker and it is labeled Numbers. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Well, they certainly aren't masked roms... I bought some and they are "blobbed gunk" roms. They are certainly interesting to me but aparently hold little value among collectors. I mean, two or three of mine have giant atari logos etched onto the back of them. That alone makes them cool! Blob chips in a cartridge are absolutely definitely going to be masked roms. (actually, on NES and later carts a blob could be the mapper chip too) A "masked" rom is simply one that is pre-programmed as part of the manufacturing process, by putting the program into the "mask" that is used to make the chip. It has absolutely nothing to do with the mounting of the chip. A blob chip is called a "die mount", where the actual bare chip is bonded and wired to the board and covered with epoxy, rather than being put into those familiar bug-like packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Tempest, Was 'Math Game' a WIP name for Basic Math? 974118[/snapback] I don't know if it was a WIP name or not, but that may have been what they called it around the office. I know I have one of these for Codebreaker and it is labeled Numbers. Tempest 978017[/snapback] If it was a WIP name it probably was a WIP name for Math Gran Prix (1982), instead of Basic Math (1977). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 And the Sears version was known as simply Math only. I think maybe whomever packaged these just labeled in a way that someone looking at them would know it was a game? Use that term loosely as it's not really a game, but I could see Math Gran Prix as a candidate for Math Game, but I figured this was probably just basic math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG/Snyper2099 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Well, they certainly aren't masked roms... I bought some and they are "blobbed gunk" roms. They are certainly interesting to me but aparently hold little value among collectors. I mean, two or three of mine have giant atari logos etched onto the back of them. That alone makes them cool! Blob chips in a cartridge are absolutely definitely going to be masked roms. (actually, on NES and later carts a blob could be the mapper chip too) A "masked" rom is simply one that is pre-programmed as part of the manufacturing process, by putting the program into the "mask" that is used to make the chip. It has absolutely nothing to do with the mounting of the chip. A blob chip is called a "die mount", where the actual bare chip is bonded and wired to the board and covered with epoxy, rather than being put into those familiar bug-like packages. 978361[/snapback] I should have phrased that better. "They are not your typical integrated circuit for sure." Thanks for pointing that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Also, any cartridge where someone went to the trouble of using die-mount manufacturing is definitely not a "prototype". It may be an unreleased game that got as far as the manufacturing stage before being cancelled, but it's still not a proto. Die-mount is the cheapest way to manufacture a cartridge, but only if you're going to make at least 10,000 or so. They don't make protos in quantity 10,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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