R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Also, I didn't significantly rewrite anything to do these. I essentially removed the extra overscan code. The games still output data in what would be the NTSC overscan area on the bottom, which won't be visible on a TV, probably. Will this cause any problems? What happens when you output data during the overscan area or in the first 37 lines? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set. 987021[/snapback] Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not. Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 PAL carts don't roll at all on my cheap TV. However, the colors are all screwy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set. 987021[/snapback] Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not. Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database? 987028[/snapback] I too have a t.v. that rolls with PAL games but when I put Air Raid and Dumbo, they don't at all.....in fact, the colors are fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set. 987021[/snapback] Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not. Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database? 987028[/snapback] I too have a t.v. that rolls with PAL games but when I put Air Raid and Dumbo, they don't at all.....in fact, the colors are fine! 987030[/snapback] So those are NTSC games that just output extra lines. Good to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV? If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uosipa llamxew Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV? If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also. 987038[/snapback] It doesn't roll on my tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll). That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them). Air Raid Aotmafos Autorennen Base Attack Bi! Bi! Bingo Duck Shot Fire Birds Forest Mission 3000 AD Panda Chase Phantom Tank (CCE) Robot Fight Ski Hunt Spider Kong (Goliath) Spider Kong (Plain) Time Machine Time Race Time Race 2 Time Warp UFO Patrol Year 1999 Zoo Fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uosipa llamxew Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Out of curiousity, I ran each of the ROMs that sku_u listed through my Krokocart to see what results I would get. I don't have these ROMs to test: Aotmafos Autorennen Bingo Spider Kong (plain) Time Race Time Race 2 Time Machine These ROMs rolled on my tv: Base Attack BiBi Year 1999 Spider Kong (Goliath) Robot Fight Phantom Tank Mission 3000 Forest Fire Birds Duck Shoot These ROMs did not roll on my tv: (although, I noticed a little jitter in some of them) Air Raid Zoo Fun UFO Patrol Time Warp Ski Hunt Panda Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll). That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them). Air Raid Aotmafos Autorennen Base Attack Bi! Bi! Bingo Duck Shot Fire Birds Forest Mission 3000 AD Panda Chase Phantom Tank (CCE) Robot Fight Ski Hunt Spider Kong (Goliath) Spider Kong (Plain) Time Machine Time Race Time Race 2 Time Warp UFO Patrol Year 1999 Zoo Fun 987042[/snapback] They have graphic differences, but are related to NTSC versions. Which came first only Clonespy can tell: Autorennen - Grand Prix Bi! Bi! - Scuba Diver Fire Birds - Assault Phantom Tank (CCE) - Tanks But No Tanks Time Race 2 / UFO Patrol - Time Warp (Zellers) Mission 3000 has been done. I think Panda Chase is related to Zoo Fun, but they look completely different. Trying to figure out all the Pac-Kongs & Spider Kongs makes my head hurt. I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV? If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also. 987038[/snapback] My Great Escape works perfectly on all my t.v.'s (NTSC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll). That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them). Air Raid Aotmafos Autorennen Base Attack Bi! Bi! Bingo Duck Shot Fire Birds Forest Mission 3000 AD Panda Chase Phantom Tank (CCE) Robot Fight Ski Hunt Spider Kong (Goliath) Spider Kong (Plain) Time Machine Time Race Time Race 2 Time Warp UFO Patrol Year 1999 Zoo Fun 987042[/snapback] Well, the following I have an NTSC version for (based on the above list): 1) Mission 3000AD 2) Phantom Tank 3) Robot Fight (Astro War is another name for this game I believe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Time_Race.bin Time_Machine.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Well, the following I have an NTSC version for (based on the above list): 1) Mission 3000AD 2) Phantom Tank 3) Robot Fight (Astro War is another name for this game I believe). 987077[/snapback] I think Robot Fight and Astro War are two very different games Wonder007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 1) Mission 3000AD 2) Phantom Tank Do you own CCE versions of these carts? I own CCE carts of both of these, but when I had them dumped and tried to run them through my CC2, both rolled. I cannot run clonespy so I don't know what the scanline #s are on each of them, but given that I cannot get them to work on any TVs that don't have vertical hold, I assume they are closer to PAL than they are to NTSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them? 987072[/snapback] Nothing special, but here you go: AUTOM.bin BINGO.BIN Year.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I think Robot Fight and Astro War are two very different games Wonder007. 987085[/snapback] Here's the binary for Robot Fight. I don't know if it is the same as Astro War or not: ROBOTFT.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Here's Astrowar. I found a copy of UFO Patrol that's 269 lines. Looks like Time Warp by Zellers to me. The Zellers Time Warp in the AA database is PAL. I think Time Warp = Time Race 2 = UFO Patrol. I'm not sure. this one is NTSC. Astrowar.bin UFO_Patrol.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 1) Mission 3000AD 2) Phantom Tank Do you own CCE versions of these carts? I own CCE carts of both of these, but when I had them dumped and tried to run them through my CC2, both rolled. I cannot run clonespy so I don't know what the scanline #s are on each of them, but given that I cannot get them to work on any TVs that don't have vertical hold, I assume they are closer to PAL than they are to NTSC. 987106[/snapback] CloneSpy doesn't tell you the line numbers, Z26 does. Just use "-n" when launching it to see the scanline count. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them? 987072[/snapback] Nothing special, but here you go: 987109[/snapback] Bingo is the same as "Dice Puzzle" by Panda (and Sancho). Year 1999 is not a valid rom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Atomatos is a hack of Outlaw, and I couldn't get the Year 1999 to do anything. My computer showed a black screen, and kept telling me to buzz off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Year 1999 is not a valid rom... 987183[/snapback] Works fine on my CC2 (minus the rolling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Then the attachment must have gotten corrupted, since it's only 2.67k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Also, the Year 1999 I have is a PAL (312 lines) rom. Looks exactly like Condor Attack (and other clones). Says "Suntek" on the bottom of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Then the attachment must have gotten corrupted, since it's only 2.67k. 987223[/snapback] It's actually a .rar file. Rename the file to year.rar and then extract it. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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