carmel_andrews Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) I recently downloaded most/all of tosec's .dat files for use with romcentre and various other rom manager/renamers Although it does have Atari 8bit .dat files i notice that it doesn't have one that supports the .exe or .com format, only supports the atr/xex format Does anyone have a tosec atari 8bit .dat file that supports the .exe or .com files or a utily to convert .exe or com files to .xex or .atr format Edited January 30, 2006 by carmel_andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Serious Atari collectors should never use TOSEC, it's abominable. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twh/f2 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Serious Atari collectors should never use TOSEC, it's abominable. -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com 1009462[/snapback] why? I don't know too much about the naming-quality but the tosec naming standard is excellent. It describes great way to name files in a way everbody should use. By using this convention it gets easy to organize thousands of files. When I renamed all my files I started to import these information in a database. No I am aware of all my hundred and thousands of atari xl/xe files/images/roms and docs. Then I have file named like this: 8bit\games\identified\_pool\Wall, The (1988)(Hiassoft).atr 8bit\games\identified\Atari\Dig Dug (1983)(Atari)[OSb].atr 8bit\games\identified\Datasoft\Alternate Reality - The City (1985)(Datasoft)[cr Glenn](Disk 1 of 2 Side A).atz I wish you would use the same standard on your page then I could easily integrate missing titles I found on your page in both directions. But so I have to rename files first and run then my import-tool. cheers, \thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 .XEX is a binary load file, exactly the same structure as .COM or .EXE on the Atari. .XEX is the recommended standard, since Windows/DOS uses .COM and .EXE for it's command files. So, just do a bulk rename of your files to meet that standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The TOSEC system is a good idea that has grown into an uncontrollable monster for different reasons. Among other things: - the renaming quality is pathetic - it dilutes any kind of precious release / historical information into a horrible mess - it favors the team's unique point of view... I wish you would use the same standard on your page then I could easily integrate missing titles I found on your page in both directions. But so I have to rename files first and run then my import-tool. In an ideal world, we would have our own renaming system with frontend, maybe something similar to GB64. We don't sort the information the way TOSEC does and we'd rather go our way: a closed system which uses verified information, historical data and makes the difference between original games and cracks is, in our opinion, far more constructive than TOSEC... -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Atarimania... I don't think that simply renaming the exe's to xex's will be sufficent as i guess that the exe file wiull have a different 'checksum' to a file of the same name in xex format And the integral part of these rom managers like romcentre/cmpro etc is that their .dat files rely on a set 'checksum' for each file and in anycase romcentre/cmpro only repairs/renames some of the files, not all, obviously there must be different versions of the same 'hacked' atr file again with different checxksums As you are the maintainer/principle behind your w/s why not start an AIO (All In One) Atari project similar to tosec/goodtools etc, across all Atari platforms i.e game systems, computers etc, and have a 'flexible' checksum and renaming system that checks for different naming conventions and checksums for the different versions of the same Atr, Xfd, Dcm, Exe, Xex type file, at least it will be a standard for all Atari platfoirms as you will be able to repair/rename or rebuild entire collections How's about it atarimania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Atarimania... I don't think that simply renaming the exe's to xex's will be sufficent as i guess that the exe file wiull have a different 'checksum' to a file of the same name in xex format 1009600[/snapback] Changing the name will not change the checksum. Have you tried Tosecs TIM tool? It has the latest dats available via its online update capability and will handle ATR, xex, tapes, etc. It should rename your exe to xex for you as part of the rebuild process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Is such a database available from Atarimania? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Is such a database available from Atarimania? Steve 1009640[/snapback] This is a question that we're often asked. The simple answer is "No," but it's discussed in a little more detail here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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