So I finally got a weird problem solved with the Odyssey 2 Oranges game. It's odd because I don't know what caused it and why what I did to solve it worked. Essentially what I did was two extra characters (the E and S in the title screen), I changed them to a blank character. So what I did was instead moved them down to the unused part of the screen, below the visible point. Like I do sometimes. Apparently it also works on PAL TVs because nobody has said anything yet. So anyway, I have used up almost 1k of 2k. What am I going to do with the other 1k? That is where I'll put code for the items. I've worked a lot on this today, I figure I should rest a little before I attempt to put in the items so i don't get burned out. I have been having fun creating the beginning of a manual in case this ever gets done and released. This would be my ninth Odyssey 2 game. Man, that's a lot.