Omegamatrix Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I've never had any trouble playing NTSC games on my console or TV. I don't unfortunately have a harmony cart to test. I guess comparing colours is no good? Is there any other way? Colors may not tell the whole story, because they might have been changed by the pirate company. A rom dump is much better way as you can easily verify the number of scanlines the game is using. While playing the game in the Stella emulator, press Alt L to display the number of scanlines. NTSC games will be around 262 lines, and PAL around 312 or so. Once a rom is dumped it can also be disassembled and reverse engineered to determine what the exact differences are (between the original and pirate roms). Converted 7800's are mostly used to dump games (Dino has one). The future though might lie with the Harmony cart. Batari is working on something that will allow the Harmony to dump games as well. I'm just waiting to see what he comes up with. In any case if/when it gets done I'm sure it'll be a lot easier to use then the 7800 dumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 That's Crazy Climber. What the hell is that game doing on a pirate cart? Is it truly PAL? Does your TV accept NTSC signals, nofrills? Actually, a better way to test would be to load up a Harmony cart with the NTSC rom and play it on the same TV. That way you'll get a direct comparison. I've never had any trouble playing NTSC games on my console or TV. I don't unfortunately have a harmony cart to test. I guess comparing colours is no good? Is there any other way? NTSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 You checked it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 You checked it? not yet - it's still under guard BTW I got a direct translation for this end label: 冒險家 = adventurer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) another funvision console I haven't seen before: and there was another... but i've lost the link.... edit... no it was this one: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 260678818411 (haven't seen that box variation before) Edited October 17, 2010 by nofrills100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 another funvision console I haven't seen before: and there was another... but i've lost the link.... edit... no it was this one: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 260678818411 (haven't seen that box variation before) Funky! Never seen that one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) wow.... you know what I just discovered... check out the chinese on the front of the red funvision console... and then check out the end label on the cart I scanned in the post above it (the one I said translated to 'adventurer') so funvision = 冒險家 = adventurer so is that then a funvision cart or a cart entitled 'adventurer' edit.. the same chinese for funvision is on the front of the other boxed console I posted recently... well there you go..! Edited October 18, 2010 by nofrills100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 wow.... you know what I just discovered... check out the chinese on the front of the red funvision console... and then check out the end label on the cart I scanned in the post above it (the one I said translated to 'adventurer') so funvision = 冒險家 = adventurer so is that then a funvision cart Must be that. Nice catch, Nofrills! I will double-check all other chinese cart pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 edit.. the same chinese for funvision is on the front of the other boxed console I posted recently... The first symbol looks different. On the Funvision console the top box is closed, and on the cart it is open. If you have a Chinese friend translating these for you ask them if it is the same word. Google Translate is also a good place for definitions: http://translate.google.ca/translate_t?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&q=adventurer&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=zh-CN&sa=X&ei=mti8TJKxN8mFswbr2onaDQ&ved=0CBUQrgYwAA#en|zh-TW|adventurer%0A Just make sure you choose Chinese Traditional over Chinese Simplified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 edit.. the same chinese for funvision is on the front of the other boxed console I posted recently... The first symbol looks different. On the Funvision console the top box is closed, and on the cart it is open. If you have a Chinese friend translating these for you ask them if it is the same word. Google Translate is also a good place for definitions: http://translate.google.ca/translate_t?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&q=adventurer&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=zh-CN&sa=X&ei=mti8TJKxN8mFswbr2onaDQ&ved=0CBUQrgYwAA#en|zh-TW|adventurer%0A Just make sure you choose Chinese Traditional over Chinese Simplified. Both the same: Adventurer I think that its a bit tenuous to say that Funvision = "adventurer" though... These consoles have all sorts of random words printed on them It might be the Funvision "Adventurer" though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Look closer, Dino. The place I'm talking about is here: On the Funvision Console it is two complete boxes, while on the cart it is an upsidedown "U". What I wondering is if this a different word, or the same word written written slangishly, eh? I can't read Chinese myself. However I've worked with lots of Chinese people in the past. What I remember of Chinese written language is that sometimes words look very close, but by adding a single extra tick to the base set it becomes a whole different word. So I'm hoping Nofrills has a friend that can confirm it's the same word. Neat discovery really. I also wondering if they are calling the console "Adventurer" as in a model type. Also it wouldn't surprise me if this was another front for Funvision (as they had their hands tied to so many other companies anyhow!). This is a little different situation though, because the Funvision logo is plastered on the console too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Look closer, Dino. The place I'm talking about is here: On the Funvision Console it is two complete boxes, while on the cart it is an upsidedown "U". What I wondering is if this a different word, or the same word written written slangishly, eh? I can't read Chinese myself. However I've worked with lots of Chinese people in the past. What I remember of Chinese written language is that sometimes words look very close, but by adding a single extra tick to the base set it becomes a whole different word. So I'm hoping Nofrills has a friend that can confirm it's the same word. Neat discovery really. I also wondering if they are calling the console "Adventurer" as in a model type. Also it wouldn't surprise me if this was another front for Funvision (as they had their hands tied to so many other companies anyhow!). This is a little different situation though, because the Funvision logo is plastered on the console too. I asked a chinese guy and he confirmed the words are the same I'm pretty sure that Adventurer is not another word for Funvision though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I asked a chinese guy and he confirmed the words are the same Great! I'm pretty sure that Adventurer is not another word for Funvision The console is still pretty neat though. You could almost use it as survival gear to flag a rescue plane when you're lost in the woods. It looks very close to another Funvision model, only bright red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I asked a chinese guy and he confirmed the words are the same Great! I'm pretty sure that Adventurer is not another word for Funvision The console is still pretty neat though. You could almost use it as survival gear to flag a rescue plane when you're lost in the woods. It looks very close to another Funvision model, only bright red. It is definately one of the best looking Jrs around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 It is definately one of the best looking Jrs around yeah totally! if you look in the bottom left corner - you will notice that the joysticks are red too! niiiice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I can't read Chinese myself. However I've worked with lots of Chinese people in the past. What I remember of Chinese written language is that sometimes words look very close, but by adding a single extra tick to the base set it becomes a whole different word. When I went to China with my girlfriend (now wife) we got pulled off a domestic flight and taken into a back room, totally oblivious to what the problem was... thinking about all the things we should have declared in our luggage only to eventually find out that her plane ticket had her name as OConnor and her passport had her name as O'Connor - they thought she was a trying to pass herself off as someone else! - goes to show what chaos a little ' can do in chinese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 When I went to China with my girlfriend (now wife) we got pulled off a domestic flight and taken into a back room, totally oblivious to what the problem was... thinking about all the things we should have declared in our luggage only to eventually find out that her plane ticket had her name as OConnor and her passport had her name as O'Connor - they thought she was a trying to pass herself off as someone else! - goes to show what chaos a little ' can do in chinese! Sounds like they were 'ed off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 another funvision console I haven't seen before: and there was another... but i've lost the link.... edit... no it was this one: eBay Auction -- Item Number: 260678818411 (haven't seen that box variation before) aaah i know that foto .... the lady that owns that one has all sorts of funky consoles ... but it seems they're really ard to find. i never managed got arrange any deal with her ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 As promised some Monaco Distributors pics . I know they are not perfect- I made them with my camera. Hope you can use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Unfortunately I can't use them. But thanks for sharing, Iwan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Some interesting label artworks found on the back of my Hi-Score console box. Notably the Funvision Inca Gold T-Handle variation label. And two Ultravision label variations that (probably) were not released. Also attached is an Ultravision ad I found on the net that I don't think you have Rom. Edited November 15, 2010 by nofrills100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Some interesting label artworks found on the back of my Hi-Score console box. Notably the Funvision Inca Gold T-Handle variation label. And two Ultravision label variations that (probably) were not released. Also attached is an Ultravision ad I found on the net that I don't think you have Rom. Nice ad! Never seen it before. Exactly which two Ultravision label variations were not released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Some interesting label artworks found on the back of my Hi-Score console box. Notably the Funvision Inca Gold T-Handle variation label. And two Ultravision label variations that (probably) were not released. Also attached is an Ultravision ad I found on the net that I don't think you have Rom. Nice ad! Never seen it before. Exactly which two Ultravision label variations were not released? i mean these two labels / art works - which are not the labels on the two carts that did end up being released. (which however feature on the back of the hi-score box) Edited November 15, 2010 by nofrills100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 funny how the border of the 'king of world' label matches the borders on the artworks on the back of the hi-score box... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 funny how the border of the 'king of world' label matches the borders on the artworks on the back of the hi-score box... That's interesting indeed. Nice catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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