Omegamatrix Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Brucebidder: Why don't you like sniping? It's over and done with and you don't have to be in front of the computer? I don't see ANY reason for people not to snipe anymore. It drives up the price to not snipe these days, and you can't see who you are bidding against anymore anyway. This is an argument that gets rehashed every few monthes, but here is my thoughts if anyone cares. As a buyer and a Seller for many years on ebay and now the CW it goes like this. I do not hate sniping I don't use it because the benefit only exists in the eye of the user. Whether you and 6 other people drive up the cost on day one of the auction or in the last few minutes the item sells for the most part the same. So 7 people set up sniping to go in the last miute and the game is only at .99 cents til then but the seven of you duke it out up to end time in 60 seconds the game will still sell for about what its value is. I see it often especially selling. Sometimes sniping actually inflates the cost. Because once the snipes are in someone else may have already placed a ridiculous bid 3 days before and in those instances the seller makes out big time. I sold a COleco Setup worth about 200.00 for nearly 600.00 thanks in most part to sniping and one serious bidder dead set on winning. I personally don't snipe myself if I want something I will bid and drive the price up early alot of times that discourages alot of the snipers out there and thats to my benefit. I would rather bid against sniping than a real person who may overbid on emotion. If I made it sound earlier in this thread that I hated sniping I apologize I just don't use it because I see no benefit to it.. I also can place my bid early and forget about it, so.... I hate putting in a large bid at the begining just to see it chiped away 50 cents at a time by a guy who has 2 stars. So I like to snipe. I'm also not at my computer 24/7 and auctions do end while I'm at work. So sniping helps me there too. Again I don't want to put in a big bid early and have it chipped away by a guy who is new to eBay. I think almost everyone can agree that most of the action is really in the last few seconds whether you are manually bidding or sniping. I used to manually bid in the last few seconds but my computer would sometimes freeze, so I snipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerwannabee Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Brucebidder: Why don't you like sniping? It's over and done with and you don't have to be in front of the computer? I don't see ANY reason for people not to snipe anymore. It drives up the price to not snipe these days, and you can't see who you are bidding against anymore anyway. This is an argument that gets rehashed every few monthes, but here is my thoughts if anyone cares. As a buyer and a Seller for many years on ebay and now the CW it goes like this. I do not hate sniping I don't use it because the benefit only exists in the eye of the user. Whether you and 6 other people drive up the cost on day one of the auction or in the last few minutes the item sells for the most part the same. So 7 people set up sniping to go in the last miute and the game is only at .99 cents til then but the seven of you duke it out up to end time in 60 seconds the game will still sell for about what its value is. I see it often especially selling. Sometimes sniping actually inflates the cost. Because once the snipes are in someone else may have already placed a ridiculous bid 3 days before and in those instances the seller makes out big time. I sold a COleco Setup worth about 200.00 for nearly 600.00 thanks in most part to sniping and one serious bidder dead set on winning. I personally don't snipe myself if I want something I will bid and drive the price up early alot of times that discourages alot of the snipers out there and thats to my benefit. I would rather bid against sniping than a real person who may overbid on emotion. If I made it sound earlier in this thread that I hated sniping I apologize I just don't use it because I see no benefit to it.. I also can place my bid early and forget about it, so.... I hate putting in a large bid at the begining just to see it chiped away 50 cents at a time by a guy who has 2 stars. So I like to snipe. I'm also not at my computer 24/7 and auctions do end while I'm at work. So sniping helps me there too. Again I don't want to put in a big bid early and have it chipped away by a guy who is new to eBay. I think almost everyone can agree that most of the action is really in the last few seconds whether you are manually bidding or sniping. I used to manually bid in the last few seconds but my computer would sometimes freeze, so I snipe. The key is not to bid your full amount at first. It is better to drive it up to about half of what it's worth. That will give the seller enough incentive to go through with the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDeLee Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 But this seller is worse than the a$$holes that work out side deals. Well... I guess I'm just an asshat forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 But this seller is worse than the a$$holes that work out side deals. Well... I guess I'm just an asshat forever. Asshole and asshat are pretty strong words, but if you do side deals, politely put you are breaking the rules and very much one of the reasons Ebay sucks anymore. Sure, we all hate Ebay since they're this big uber-"monopoly" but the more people use methods to cut their profit out, the more they'll up their fees to compensate. Just think of the guy on your block getting cable TV for free. Same thing. In the end, it's the honest people who pay when the rates/fees go up. Why people can't play by the rules always puzzled me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 But this seller is worse than the a$$holes that work out side deals. Well... I guess I'm just an asshat forever. Asshole and asshat are pretty strong words, but if you do side deals, politely put you are breaking the rules and very much one of the reasons Ebay sucks anymore. Sure, we all hate Ebay since they're this big uber-"monopoly" but the more people use methods to cut their profit out, the more they'll up their fees to compensate. Just think of the guy on your block getting cable TV for free. Same thing. In the end, it's the honest people who pay when the rates/fees go up. Why people can't play by the rules always puzzled me. Very legitimate point. Well spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 But this seller is worse than the a$$holes that work out side deals. Well... I guess I'm just an asshat forever. If you intentionally work out side deals and get people to end auctions early for your benefit alone and against ebay policy, and to screw over every other bidder whether an AA member or not, then yes you are. Working out a side deal is like being in a boxing match and going over and slugging your opponent in the head with a baseball bat while he's facing the corner taking off his robe. It's dirty, underhanded and just plain rude. Of course thats just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninermaniac Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 But this seller is worse than the a$$holes that work out side deals. Well... I guess I'm just an asshat forever. If you intentionally work out side deals and get people to end auctions early for your benefit alone and against ebay policy, and to screw over every other bidder whether an AA member or not, then yes you are. Working out a side deal is like being in a boxing match and going over and slugging your opponent in the head with a baseball bat while he's facing the corner taking off his robe. It's dirty, underhanded and just plain rude. Of course thats just my opinion. I firmly agree. Those of us who get their hopes up on getting an item or just seeing how high it goes get a little upset when this happens. But that is how some get good deals. Selfish pigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncurry Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headfamily Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 So who is that? Anyone from Atariage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade-N-Games Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 This side deal stuff is never ending. I see the same events play out in so many things on the Bay and then people on many different forums make post about the same things. It's old now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncurry Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The original seller was there too, so I would deduce that it's the original guy, now a bit wiser, selling under a different id for whatever reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The original seller was there too, so I would deduce that it's the original guy, now a bit wiser, selling under a different id for whatever reason... Boy I'm gonna be all over that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Brucebidder: Why don't you like sniping? It's over and done with and you don't have to be in front of the computer? I don't see ANY reason for people not to snipe anymore. It drives up the price to not snipe these days, and you can't see who you are bidding against anymore anyway. This is an argument that gets rehashed every few monthes, but here is my thoughts if anyone cares. As a buyer and a Seller for many years on ebay and now the CW it goes like this. I do not hate sniping I don't use it because the benefit only exists in the eye of the user. Whether you and 6 other people drive up the cost on day one of the auction or in the last few minutes the item sells for the most part the same. So 7 people set up sniping to go in the last miute and the game is only at .99 cents til then but the seven of you duke it out up to end time in 60 seconds the game will still sell for about what its value is. I see it often especially selling. Sometimes sniping actually inflates the cost. Because once the snipes are in someone else may have already placed a ridiculous bid 3 days before and in those instances the seller makes out big time. I sold a COleco Setup worth about 200.00 for nearly 600.00 thanks in most part to sniping and one serious bidder dead set on winning. I personally don't snipe myself if I want something I will bid and drive the price up early alot of times that discourages alot of the snipers out there and thats to my benefit. I would rather bid against sniping than a real person who may overbid on emotion. If I made it sound earlier in this thread that I hated sniping I apologize I just don't use it because I see no benefit to it.. I also can place my bid early and forget about it, so.... I hate putting in a large bid at the begining just to see it chiped away 50 cents at a time by a guy who has 2 stars. So I like to snipe. I'm also not at my computer 24/7 and auctions do end while I'm at work. So sniping helps me there too. Again I don't want to put in a big bid early and have it chipped away by a guy who is new to eBay. I think almost everyone can agree that most of the action is really in the last few seconds whether you are manually bidding or sniping. I used to manually bid in the last few seconds but my computer would sometimes freeze, so I snipe. The other problem is if the user has 2 stars and is bidding in 50 cent incriments, it screams shill bidding but again thanks to ebay and their awesome new bidding system thats hard to tell like the old days. Oh thanks ebay for protecting the jerks of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I just keepi track of the feedback number now to figure who might be who... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncurry Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Someone (toolhaus maybe?) should write a widget that matches completed auctions (with revealed usernames) to bidders in current auctions based on feedback scores, within the same category or by title keyword or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 The link says the item is no longer available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 The link says the item is no longer available? Excuse the Pun, but he Jerked it off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncurry Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 The link says the item is no longer available? Excuse the Pun, but he Jerked it off again. No, then it would say ended early, to be invalid eBay ended it for him. Could be he didn't pay his fees or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerwannabee Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 The link says the item is no longer available? Excuse the Pun, but he Jerked it off again. No, then it would say ended early, to be invalid eBay ended it for him. Could be he didn't pay his fees or something. My guess they suspended him for his lousy 93.7% positive feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Well, well, well, lookee what just turned up for auction in Burton, Michigan. What are the odds? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=230277253749 The link says the item is no longer available? Excuse the Pun, but he Jerked it off again. No, then it would say ended early, to be invalid eBay ended it for him. Could be he didn't pay his fees or something. Or they found out, those two accounts, were by the same person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFK Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Here it is again.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucebidder Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Here it is again.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=001 Well its definitely him as it again includes my neighbor Manuel. His spelling is awesome. I bet he is a real treat. Gotta love it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I didn't even see this thread, I was bidding on the first lot. Someone had to have told him that CC was rare. Is $300 really worth it, I admit I hadn't priced these. Quadrun is usually higher. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I didn't even see this thread, I was bidding on the first lot. Someone had to have told him that CC was rare. Is $300 really worth it, I admit I hadn't priced these. Quadrun is usually higher. AX I would pay $300 for a nice boxed one. Paypal ASAP, Anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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